Breakthrough Martian Manhunter gets 39% of damage from a safe teleport.

[Jay Rupp]

Way too much Dmg ouput off a safe attack. Just saying.

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[Jay Rupp]

Zod gets free Interactable damage with Trait. Zod gets full screen pressure, mixups, etc. with trait. Zod makes you respect him hella with trait. Zod can run away and zone you without trait, and stronger with trait. Zod eliminated my jumping game especially with trait. Zod is safe on one of his stupid ass charges.

Zod makes me rage, and you don't see me posting threads about how stupid he is.


MMH is stupid, and so is Zod. Cry about your own character for a change. This gets old Dave

MMH got wayy more tools than Zod. Its really not that hard to block his trait.

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[xInfra Deadx]

F2 low crushes and gets 40%. Why aren't more people complaining about that move?

 

[SimSim]

MMH got wayy more tools than Zod. Its really not that hard to block his trait.

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While I agree that MMH has hellah tools, I actually think Zod and MMH are pretty equal in that department. It's just that Zod's tools require a ph.d to utilize optimally while MMH's tools only require a masters degree

And about this "blocking zod's trait mix ups isn't that hard" that I see people supporting. If you can block Zod's trait mix ups consistently and on reaction, the Zod simply isn't doing it right. Now, I have to agree that there are very few (if any) zod players that has his trait pressure/mix ups down to a science (It's still in the development too), and the few that might be getting close to it, does not have the consistencey with it. A ph.d takes a long freaking time to get

 

[SaJa]

Black Adam is still the king. Where are those Zod and Mmh you all scared of ? Where are they ? I don't see them yet. Once we'll see them more, we will learn matchups as well as we did with Jax on mk9.

Zod's trait is good, but it seems overrated when I see words compare to facts.

 

[GRs_Prince]

Long time no see m2dave QQ

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[Pig Of The Hut]

Black Adam is still the king. Where are those Zod and Mmh you all scared of ? Where are they ? I don't see them yet. Once we'll see them more, we will learn matchups as well as we did with Jax on mk9.

Zod's trait is good, but it seems overrated when I see words compare to facts.

Lol smh
U justdon't know yet

 

[Qwark28]

Lol smh
U justdon't know yet

only on their knees will they know ZOD.

only the select few can main such a character

 

[godlessmode]

only on their knees will they know ZOD.

only the select few can main such a character

I swear people up-play how hard Zod is to use. He is hard relative to IGAU characters. He is not hard relative to other fighting games.

 

[SaJa]

Lol smh
U justdon't know yet

You didn't take that long with Kenshi (who was also a dlc ^^)

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

You didn't take that long with Kenshi (who was also a dlc ^^)

This is a stupid comment

I practiced w Kenshi oct-March and didn't use him at a major till final round in March
6 months . I at the time used all Mileena and CSz for top 8s

What else u got?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

You didn't take that long with Kenshi (who was also a dlc ^^)

I'll also add I wasn't married and didn't have a kid at the time and had 8 hours free a day

Now I'm traveling on the road w work 3-4 days out of week and have two nights free to myself

Basically if anyone loses to me it's a blow up completely because I'm shit in injustice and have 10-20% the time most 17-27 year olds have

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I swear people up-play how hard Zod is to use. He is hard relative to IGAU characters. He is not hard relative to other fighting games.

In matches like sinestro is the type of hard

Not hard to use in practice mode

But when sinestro has to work 10% the effort ZOD does in the respective MU is what I mean

 

[godlessmode]

I was talking more from a general execution/tech perspective than from a MU strategy perspective.

A bad MU necessitates work (thats why its a bad MU), regardless of the character/game; and I would consider Sinestro one of Zod's bad MUs.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

I was talking more from a general execution/tech perspective than from a MU strategy perspective.

A bad MU necessitates work (thats why its a bad MU), regardless of the character/game; and I would consider Sinestro one of Zod's bad MUs.

I think f213 43 4 f2 4 3 d2 d4 grab cancel is annoying and hard

Might be one if hardest to do 10/10 in game

Sinestro doesn't have one thing in this level in terms of hard to do

Neither does aqua

 

[godlessmode]

I think f213 43 4 f2 4 3 d2 d4 grab cancel is annoying and hard

Might be one if hardest to do 10/10 in game

Right, note the first post of mine you quoted where I said that Zod was hard to use for IGAU. Not for other fighting games. I agree that for IGAU Zod is fucking rocket science.


The grab cancel is hard, but no harder than many other just frames, and in fact easier than a number. Keep in mind that games like Tekken have strings with multiple JF inputs for completion. Games like Marvel and SF4 have multiple 1-frame links that are required for various combos including loops as well as other more complex inputs. And that isn't even getting into the more Animu style fighters like GG/BlazBlue.

Zod can be very hard to use for a NRS game/IGAU without being hard to use within the greater context of fighting games. And IMO thats exactly the case here.

 

[SaJa]

This is a stupid comment

Stupid enough to give me thousand of excuses ? :\

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Stupid enough to give me thousand of excuses ? :\

Im sorry due to your comment i responded w factual information showing what you said to be ill-advised and just plain wrong

 

[SaJa]

Im sorry due to your comment i responded w factual information showing what you said to be ill-advised and just plain wrong

You responded with hate. You don't need to be pissed off to explain yourself. I have enough of those upset people for so few, especially when we give smileys to make it like half a joke (I'm pretty sure kenshi is easier to get than zod).

Don't blame myself for having a kid.

 

[Rebelo]

General M2Dave
why use a bar for 39% when you can get 38%for no bar

 

[godlessmode]

Well, that just changed my evening plans from practicing Zod tech to practicing a new MMH combo. Thanks!

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Well, that just changed my evening plans from practicing Zod tech to practicing a new MMH combo. Thanks!

not viable on vita

was doing same thing

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

You responded with hate. You don't need to be pissed off to explain yourself. I have enough of those upset people for so few, especially when we give smileys to make it like half a joke (I'm pretty sure kenshi is easier to get than zod).

Don't blame myself for having a kid.

Get your facts straight next time

 

[SaJa]

Get your facts straight next time

Straight or not, if you are too old for being as good as before, you are too old to not answer me like an adult.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Straight or not, if you are too old for being as good as before, you are too old to not answer me like an adult.

Factual?

welcome to the real world