i think ppl mean show casing his cancels , mixups and combos . also dragons fire ppl are just talking about the character. there is no representation of him offline , only zyphox in one tournament. lets not make this a debate thread lol
non existant as of yetany offline footage from you? would love to see
he's been doing quite well @ESL and will be playing at the finals as well
Yeah but EU ESL is meh. Online winnings are meh in general. Not trying to make this a debate thread, I've just literally never seen any offline footage of him so I was confused at people saying he's the best in the world. Like, what do they know that I don't? Lol.
Are you serious? EU has some amazing players that are so good at this game. If you don't think Foxy vs Xaraka is extremely high level and doesn't count because it's online, you need to get something looked at. When both players respect the game as if it were offline, the online argument is invalid.
Some people here on tym are unbelievable. These guys are pretty much friends, and all from the UK. Why would they try to downplay the player? Even Xarakamaka himself said that the character is S+
Yup. Also lets not forget about armored reversal for Summoner Quan, coz you know he is not good enough yet.
I'm getting tired of this stupid argument. Why does a player have to travel to the US to be recognized? Europe has had tons of offline tournaments featuring amazing players, yet they need to prove themselves in the US to matter. That's just stupid. Also, have you ever considered that not everyone is able to travel to offline tournaments? The way Xarakamaka plays is just as viable online as offline (if anything, frame perfect fbc are harder to do online).
I'm getting tired of this cancerous site and getting blown up for asking a simple question. NA has the best of the best. EU is great, but NA has the top killers. That's just the way it is. I was asking what he has done to make people say is he the Liu of the world, and someone responded with EU ESL. I was generally curious if he had ever been to a major in the states. Think what you want, but this is not the same game online that it is offline.
I like how you think that Taco who actually travels to tournament in EU and USA may think that MK X is the same online and offline. Not to mention it wasn't even the point he was making.
Are we still in 2011? Coz that's NOT the way it is now.
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Sonicfox and most of yomi dominate every major. Even at NEC. Stop. I
Please just stop...
He plays the best kung lao in the world regularly and goes even (you know, the one who put foot on American soil and got 2nd at Evo and wrecked at SCR). You're talking to a tournament player here man and I'm saying that him only being known for online doesn't make him any less good.
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yes what he says guys , liu kang is at least 15th worst in this game! , turn your attentions elsewhere now , spread out to the other charactersthings df lk is great at and reasons why so many are considering him top tier right now
-rc plus frames
-getting in and being plus for 1 bar ( every character has options here and can counter it )
-keeping pressure going with rc and use of a bar
-breaking armor
-landing throws
things he is average at .
-zoning ( every character can get around this in mkx though lk is slightly above average but i wouldn't call it great or op or top 5 )
-damage
-converting into damage on odd hits
-corner carry
-corner game ( pretty much every character is scary when you're cornered )
-oki
-pokes
-armor
-safeness
-neutral game ( this could be put into bad category because of his reach i feel but kept it average do to dragon kick and iafb )
things he is bad at .
-relies on stamina so breakers are like a death sentence
-reach
-AA and dealing with crossup
-air normals
-air to air
-whiffing and is very punishable on whiff
-whiff punishing
-50/50 ( 22 is full combo punishable on block by all and b2 is only light punishable by a few and always should be a change in turn if blocked )
-stagger strings
-getting out of pressure or reversing pressure
-weakness to pokes and low profile
-wake ups
-high execution ( fbf is a stupid input in any fg and so is bf2-hold-ff-block both are commitments and alot of combos are inconsistent when they shouldn't be causing end of combo whiffs that get you punished , even the best lk players have this happen offline and online )
-has no restand ( poke at all the jc hate
i disagree with him being an elite character , i don't think he is even top 10 . FF was S+ for like a week lol
ggs
Please just read what Taco wrote above and then stop quoting me into your derp posts.
Dragons fire is definitely top 10. Just not S+ God that people claim. Most of which get blown the hell up by people using him. Id place him S or AT THE LOWEST A+ for sure. Hes most definitely a top 10 character imothings df lk is great at and reasons why so many are considering him top tier right now
-rc plus frames
-getting in and being plus for 1 bar ( every character has options here and can counter it )
-keeping pressure going with rc and use of a bar
-breaking armor
-landing throws
things he is average at .
-zoning ( every character can get around this in mkx though lk is slightly above average but i wouldn't call it great or op or top 5 )
-damage
-converting into damage on odd hits
-corner carry
-corner game ( pretty much every character is scary when you're cornered )
-oki
-pokes
-armor
-safeness
-neutral game ( this could be put into bad category because of his reach i feel but kept it average do to dragon kick and iafb )
things he is bad at .
-relies on stamina so breakers are like a death sentence
-reach
-AA and dealing with crossup
-air normals
-air to air
-whiffing and is very punishable on whiff
-whiff punishing
-50/50 ( 22 is full combo punishable on block by all and b2 is only light punishable by a few and always should be a change in turn if blocked )
-stagger strings
-getting out of pressure or reversing pressure
-weakness to pokes and low profile
-wake ups
-high execution ( fbf is a stupid input in any fg and so is bf2-hold-ff-block both are commitments and alot of combos are inconsistent when they shouldn't be causing end of combo whiffs that get you punished , even the best lk players have this happen offline and online )
-has no restand ( poke at all the jc hate
i disagree with him being an elite character , i don't think he is even top 10 . FF was S+ for like a week lol
