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tarkatan is obviously bottom tier bruh , unsafe bruh, no footsie bruh (tail now has hurtbox), no zoning bruh, unsafe counterzoning bruh, jump 2 is to easy to anti air bruh
The bombs have start-up frames like Iceball, and then take ages before they have a hitbox. You can "force actions" if they sit there and hold it but anyone with a slide or a tp can do it on reaction for the most part, and giving them the option to just run in and pressure you isn't always a great option. They are ok though. But not some brilliant tool for controlling space or opening people up, he doesnt have CSZ's divekicks or F2 or slide or iceball recovery so this works a lot better for sub. Ex Bomb is pretty useful if your opponent doesnt have a great way of dealing with it though.
Net's cool but you can't AA with it unless on read, its very reactable, and very punishable.
That's literally just all Triborg stuff. And if you mean his F43 by plus on block advancing kick, its actually full combo punishable on block by ducking the second hit. You can mix it up with F4 saw tho.
I can hit confirm Jax's 11 into OHDP, and I can't confirm Cyrax's F21. The 2 hits happen right next to each other. So that's one problem. Also, it whiffs against D4's.
There is no set-ups that cover both delayed wake up AND tech roll. Just not blocking is often a great way out as well, B3D4 won't launch and B12+4 requires a super tight tech roll into 1 Bar just to combo. Although he does have options. On top of that, most double armor goes straight through these set-ups, as does Invul wake-ups like Smoke and Ethereal.
there's no guaranteed way to get out of his set ups all can be read and punished. and being low profiled is a problem a lot of character's have doesn't make him bottom tier. i don't think he's top tier obviously but bottom 5 is downplaying. he's about low mid
Your best bet is to play the character, friend. Idk where you stand in rank, but hopefully you find some matches against someone who knows how to play. And you'll just see for yourself.
low mid-tier due to very poor neutral game.
I can't even get past doing the combos consistently let alone actually playing the damn character. I have an easier time with tight links like with Tempest than I do with that convoluted ass shit. Sometimes you cancel into bombs and sometimes you do the bomb input without special canceling and then you need to be this or that close to the opponent and don't forget that you also need to delay some strings but then do some in advance...how the fuck do you people do this?
The combos, with practice, aren't super hard. The problem is they are very spacing and gravity based due to so many juggles. The issue is that they can be inconsistent and they are wierd in "conversion" situations.
also his combos take up 2 78 seconds to finish which ends up timing you out, dunno if thats a pro or a con
Marksman is worse than outlaw imo
Teleflurry is like -43 on whiff, it's terrible for a 9% space control move. It can cost you your entire life. Some characters can full combo punish it anywhere on the screen (best examples are displacer raiden, scorpion) others with a good advancing mid get free punish from around half screen, and every character gets in your face by simply whiffing 1 tf.
Grandmaster vs HT is probably worse than GM vs Jax.
I don't even bother with that matchup. I just straight up use shotgun.
Lol yeah he would be in my bottom 5 if I didn't keep forgetting that trash exists.
Everything here sound like a reasonable fair character. He has his options and leaves the opponent options. Perfect balance. This doesn't make him bottom tier. Why the downplaying? why does the Cyrax community say he is bottom tier?. Everything here describes a perfect mid tier character.
He's low mid tier. That's the general consensus I've found. He's not trash but he's not a "solid mid tier character" he has blatant flaws in his tools that really harm him. Maybe eventually as this patch develops the character will be seen as better than he currently is perceived as but that will be then and this is now.
That's the thing. It seems like they're looking at the rax man in a vacuum. But that's not what decides if he's lower tier or not. If you're going to call him mid, you need to be able to list at least 1/3 or so of the rosters variations that are worse off.
Lackey, High Tech, Warrior. These are the only ones that I have experience and could consider worse. The rest are even with Cyrax and I'm not familiar with other characters less used variations that might be candidates (Bo rai cho, goro, leatherface)
I think he wins against:
