kabelfritz
Master
aside from his great pokes, f3 is his main close/mid range anti oppression tool. throw it out when they get close or after a poke and mix f32 and f3-throw.
aside from his great pokes, f3 is his main close/mid range anti oppression tool. throw it out when they get close or after a poke and mix f32 and f3-throw.
What's your take on Super Bolt? I realize you probably haven't used anything outside of ranked variations, but I'm really puzzled as to what this move's purpose is.i dont agree at all - and i'm also raiden main since mk1. raiden is a really strong defensive character, you just need the right strategy. i feel what youre saying though, i had my moments when i thought he outright sucks. but i stuck around (got the game since thursday) and got the hang of things, now i think he can compete on par with everyone - hes just different, and i want him to stay like that. also, the defensive style suits his personality well as its not so actively agressive.
Agreed. Have no clue how to do it at all
I completely agree man. Raiden keeps getting disrespected in each game. He's moves feel so uninspired. Granted they looked cool in the trailers, they just lack a punch and utility. Compared to someone like Geras who has a ton of safe strings, high damage, and great utility on his specials. Raiden just feels like he's missing something. His projectile moves don't really suit his playstyle imo. He should be a punisher but at least allow him to do big damage when he gets you. It would make sense for him to have more Krushing Blows.Raiden got buffed and thats good, i was about to drop him yesterday even when im a raiden player since the 90s, but i still think he is low tier after the buff.
I got the chance to play raiden a lot since a got the DVD earlier than most of you here and thats some of the things that bothered me in general about raiden.
these are the things that bother me the most about Raiden.
- his mixups are average, other characters have better MU than him.
- his range is average too, the biggest range on his strings is the F112, it has some range but be carful of that F1 it might whiff.
- his projectiles are below average, he is not a zoner at all. most of his projectiles are +20 on start up, you might get punished on the DF2 even on mid range.
- most of this load out abilities are trash, most are unsafe and u will get FCP on block except for stormcell which is -3 on block, it is punishable but im not going to say how bcoz non raiden players are reading too
, some loadouts just replaces the abilities that raiden already has and do nothing differently so its just a waste of spot.
- you cant teleport easily off of b11 or F4 or f2, i manage to make it work but non consistently by pressing "B11 DDDU", yes i press down arrow three times then up after the B11, i do F4 DDU as well (two downs then up), BTW: F2 (High) is useless when u have f4 (MID) and F4 has little more range.
in general.. Raiden is an iconic MK character and has been in the game from the beginning, his gameplay and character power doesn't reflect were he should be as a Thunder God or a protecter of earthrealm, this raiden as in MKX and Injustice 2 is weak once again!
Raiden the DEMI GOD is low tier and Cassie & Jackie the mortal teenagers and the new comers to MK are high tier! that doesnt fit the common sense .
if you really want to know how powerful Raiden should be in MK11, go grab a high voltage copper cable and see what happens then ask yourself what would it feel to be struck by a lighting bolt from a "THUNDER GOD".
100 Percent
LMAO, he flaws in so many things.
I'm currently searching for corner combos also, found this one but there might be better ones for sure.
Control space. You're not just throwing shit out like all the other NRS zoners previously. Your tools control the pace of the match very well. His f4 is a god tier whiff punishing mid. Seriously I don't think you guys realize how great that move is in this game. Some characters would kill for that move. His Sparkport is amazing as well.
Honestly breakaway imo hurts Raiden only a little. He gets very good damage if they don't break, and if they choose to break, assuming you're doing the proper combo (don't end in electric fly if they have 2 defensive bars), they have to stand up to eat a legit 50/50. Several times if they don't block it.
f3 is -6, how are you conditioning people to getting thrown from that? I don't see how they are just ducking and mashing d1. Also your b12 dddU tip is nice, but in reality you're just cancelling into teleport too early. You need to wait for the B12 to connect then input down up, can't dial it in. No need for extra inputs though if it helps you that's fine.
Not sure what people are doing. DB2 is bad though because massive whiff recovery (assuming you're talking about the storm cell variation, haven't tried the other one)
i think you can neutral duck and full combo punish Storm Cell from up close - its a guaranteed d2 krushing blow combo! i think it is also possible to dash and punish from sweep range. people will learn to do that so ending a string in db2 is a risky gimmick with good payoff though.
db2 is Thunder Wave's highest damage ender. bf3 has little less damage but more hit advantage to set up zoning.
its kinda tight yeah. you can also like f2 into f32 like so:
