Li Mei General Discussion

[Evantabes]

not mentioned in the patch notes but tanya's f211 and f2112 are both -7 on block now. should significantly affect the mu.

http://imgur.com/ERmavuz

 

[LEGEND]

Is there a list for all -7 moves that Li Mei can punish? If so it really should be its own thread. Probably going to learn her at least a little bit and that seems like a crucial aspect of what makes her good.

 

[Evantabes]

Is there a list for all -7 moves that Li Mei can punish? If so it really should be its own thread. Probably going to learn her at least a little bit and that seems like a crucial aspect of what makes her good.

DB3/Ex DB3 punish charts assuming you can't get a jab or other regular starter. * means it's situational and to see the notes.

Updated as of Ferra patch

Spoiler: Ashrah

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
F3	Y*	N	Specifically referring to point blank, cross-up F3 where she lands too far away for a regular starter.
122	N	Y
21	N	Y
F42	N	Y
F423	N	Y

Spoiler: Baraka

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B3	Y	Y
B31	N	Y
F3	N	Y
444	N	Y

Spoiler: Ermac

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
123	N	Y
2	N	Y*	Safe at point blank
21	N	Y
4	N	Y
F4	N	Y
D4	Y*	Y*	Spacing dependent

Spoiler: General Shao

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
D4	Y	Y*	Ex DB3 works at point blank only
B1	N	Y
22	N	Y
B32	N	Y
B2	n	Y*	Flawless block only

Spoiler: Geras

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
D4	N	Y*	Spacing dependent
B4	Y	N
B12	N	Y
F4	N	Y

Spoiler: Havik

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D4	Y*	Y*	D3 isn't punishable. DB3 punishes everything except max range. Ex DB3 is spacing dependent.

Spoiler: Homelander

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	Y	Y*	Ex is spacing dependent. Just use regular.
B4	N	Y
F4	Y	Y
D4	Y*	Y*	Spacing dependent

Spoiler: Johnny Cage

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B3	Y*	N	Referring to spaced B3 where it's too far for a regular starter.
214	N	Y

Spoiler: Kenshi

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
D4	N	Y*	Spacing dependent
F22	N	Y
44	N	Y
DF1	N	Y
Sento D1	N	Y
Sento D3	N	Y
Sento D4	N	Y
F2	N	Y

Spoiler: Kitana

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B4	N	Y*	Only the worst, most point blank ones are punishable.
B3	N	Y
F1	Y	Y
2	N	Y
B33	N	Y
B1	N	Y*	If flawless blocked and spaced poorly, or else too much pushback
B14	N	Y*	If flawless blocked
B2	N	Y
4	N	Y
BF1	N	Y

Spoiler: Kung Lao

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
F3	N	Y
F4	Y	N
Ex BF1	N	Y*
Ex BF2	N	Y

Spoiler: Li Mei

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B24	N	Y

Spoiler: Liu Kang

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
33	N	Y
32	N	Y*	If flawless blocked

Spoiler: Mileena

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
F2433	N	Y
F4	N	Y*	Can be spaced to be safe
Air Ex DB4	Y*	Y*	She can be punishable

Spoiler: Nitara

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
12	N	Y
F12	N	Y
3	N	Y*	Spacing dependent
34	N	Y*	Divekick can be made safe

Spoiler: Omni Man

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B11	N	Y
F3	Y	Y

Spoiler: Peacemaker

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	Y	Y*	Ex is spacing dependent. Just use regular.
B4	N	Y*	Only if point blank

Spoiler: Quan

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	Y	Y*	Ex is spacing dependent. Just use regular.
13	N	Y
F21	Y	N	Too far for ex, regular hits every time.
B3	N	Y
B34	N	Y

Spoiler: Raiden

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B2	N	Y
123	N	Y*	If flawless blocked
F224	N	Y
F434	N	Y

Spoiler: Rain

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
F1	N	Y*	Can be spaced to be safe
B2	Y*	N	Spacing dependent
F2	N	Y*	Can be made safe against crouch block
D4	N	Y
112	N	Y*	If flawless blocked
4	Y*	Y*	Flawless block data listed in-game is wrong. Really -17 on flawless block, not -7 as listed.

Spoiler: Reiko

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
34	N	Y
4	N	Y

Spoiler: Reptile

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
114	N	Y
3	N	Y*	Can get a punish at most spacings
B31	N	Y
F311	N	Y*	If flawless blocked

Spoiler: Scorpion

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	Y	Y*	Ex DB3 can whiff depending on the spacing. Just use regular DB3.
F4	N	Y

Spoiler: Shang Tsung

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
B223	N	Y
F434 (Young)	N	Y
F32 (Old)	N	Y*	Spacing dependent.
F41 (Old)	N	Y

Spoiler: Sindel

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
2	N	Y

Spoiler: Smoke

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
D34	N	Y
21	N	Y
F231	N	Y*	If flawless blocked

Spoiler: Sub-Zero

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
12	N	Y
F12	N	Y
21	N	Y
212	N	Y
34	N	Y
B3	N	Y
B4	N	Y*	Spacing dependent.
D4	N	Y

Spoiler: Takeda

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	Y	Y*	Ex is spacing dependent. Just use regular.
F12	N	Y
F2	N	Y
B3	N	Y
B4	N	Y*	Spacing dependent
F4	N	Y
D4	N	Y
Ex DF4	N	Y*	First rekka

Spoiler: Tanya

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
D1	N	Y
D3	N	Y
2	N	Y
DF1/Ex DF1	N	Y
Air DF1	Y*	Y*	Spacing dependent
Ex Teleport	N	Y*	If for some reason they don't cancel into an attack

Kameos

Spoiler: Sektor

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
F+K	N	Y*	Flawless block data listed in-game is wrong. Really -7 on flawless block, not 0 as listed.

Spoiler: Tremor

Move	DB3	Ex DB3	Notes
Crystalline F+K	N	Y*	Flawless block for no pushback

i made a list here. not updated for khaos reigns since i haven't been playing much and didn't get the new characters yet. if you wanna learn her i'm down to help if you want it just lmk if you wanna play.

 

[CptLightstreak]

has anyone found any use for the 10+ frames of hit adv on cartwheel? all it did for me was mess up my meaty timing lol

 

[Syzoth]

has anyone found any use for the 10+ frames of hit adv on cartwheel? all it did for me was mess up my meaty timing lol

If you decide to setup the lantern it's less dangerous. That's about it for me.

 

[m0x]

Is there a list for all -7 moves that Li Mei can punish? If so it really should be its own thread. Probably going to learn her at least a little bit and that seems like a crucial aspect of what makes her good.

sure

get punished

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