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Zanxus

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Anyone have tips on the balanced kenshi match up? I fought one today and I barely won. I was relying a lot on teleports which I don't think will work too well in the future. His tele flurry was one of the moves giving me a lot of trouble.
 

I GOT HANDS

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Ok so i'm not gonna make a thread about it, but i'm just here to say that the tempest shit needs to stop, that +20 million hat is just ridiculous. The normal version should at least be unsafe. After playing him for 30 minutes i was bodying people that i would rarely beat with Jax, which is unfortunately viable by even just using the b321 string and the orbiting hat lol.
This game man...
Maybe Kung Lao is more suited to your gameplay, your opponents don't know the match up as well, or your Jax just aint that good. I was going to agree with you at first because Tempest is ridiculous, but Jax is only slightly weaker character as well
 

supernumian

Triborg Enthusiast
Anyone have tips on the balanced kenshi match up? I fought one today and I barely won. I was relying a lot on teleports which I don't think will work too well in the future. His tele flurry was one of the moves giving me a lot of trouble.
Balanced Kenshi seems annoying to fight against.
I play Lao and Kenshi so, I can probably say that ducking teleflurry and istant divekick is the way to get in.
However, take a look to the meter of your opponent because he can armor through your attack with push and RK and zone you again.
See the frame data to know how to punish Kenshi attacks, you can probably EX Spin against some blocked specials.
Be really patient against him.
 

LionHeart

Whisper within a sigh
Can you guys check if EX-Teleport to EX Throw damage got un-nerfed? We tested it in 2 consoles yesterday and this particular nerf was non-existent while all the other ones were.
 

MadPropz101

"I still got it...but not much of it"
Maybe Kung Lao is more suited to your gameplay, your opponents don't know the match up as well, or your Jax just aint that good. I was going to agree with you at first because Tempest is ridiculous, but Jax is only slightly weaker character as well
Jax is a great character, but he's not as straightforward or broken as tempest Lao.
 

Matador Fiend

Kombatant
Why Tempest Lao is broken?
Im not gonna say hes broken, but it does seem a bit ridiculous that he can do 4 block strings ending with enhanced hat spin because it builds so much damn meter of that 1121 cancel and theres really nothing you can do about it. I dont remember how much chip that equates to, but yeah
 

BLOOD CAPTAIN X

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Hey fellow brothers of the Shaolin I need your help.

I've recently bought a Razor Atrox arcade stick so I'm having to relearn muscle memory but the default button layout is very impractical and awkward.

current Button Layout:
1 2 Interact Throw
3 4 Block Flip Stance.

Aka

X Y RB LB
A B RT LT

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The reason I'm asking this here is because I main Kung Lao and won't be playing anyone one else other than Kung Lao. I'm a character specialist but I know some of you guys here are more experienced with MK and more experienced using a stick so I humblely ask for your help. Thank you
 
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NapalmCL

Professional training dummy
Hey fellow brother of the shoalin I need your help.

I've recently bought a razor attic arcade stick so I'm having to relearn muscle memory but the default button layout is very impractical and awkward.

current Button Layout:
1 2 Interact Throw
3 4 Block Flip Stance.

Aka

X Y RB LB
A B RT LT

.........................................................

The reason I'm asking this here is because I main Kung Lao and won't be playing anyone one else other than Kung Lao. I'm a character specialist but I know some of you guys here are more experienced with MK and more experienced using a stick so I humblely ask for your help. Thank you
I'm not a Lao only player but I am a stick player and changing was tough as hell. I can give you my layout:

1 Block 2 Interact
3 Throw 4 Flip Stance

Or

X RT Y RB
A LB B LT

I like to keep block in a good position to keep it pressed while being able to MB everything easily (was the toughest thing to get with other placements) I don't really use interact or flip stance so my main six are all right there. I know a few other people who run this setup or something similar (Just switching the block and throw buttons). Hope it helps!
 

BLOOD CAPTAIN X

GT = SIR JAY LEGEND add me on XBL for matches
I'm not a Lao only player but I am a stick player and changing was tough as hell. I can give you my layout:

1 Block 2 Interact
3 Throw 4 Flip Stance

Or

X RT Y RB
A LB B LT

I like to keep block in a good position to keep it pressed while being able to MB everything easily (was the toughest thing to get with other placements) I don't really use interact or flip stance so my main six are all right there. I know a few other people who run this setup or something similar (Just switching the block and throw buttons). Hope it helps!
Thank you for the tips that button layout is pretty solid and I've decided to use it as my custom 2.

However my friend showed me an easier set up.

1 2 4 LB
3 RT RB LT

I've been practicing for a while now and this set up feels comfortable. I'm still far from as good as I use a to be but I've gotten some of my basic BNB combos back and I've just developed new muscle memory for run cancel.

Thank you for helping me :)
 
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GS_Zodiac

Determined to make a name for the mid-west
Is there a specific thread for Kung Lao MU's, or do I have to king of look through the gen discussion thread? I'm not really good at navigating forums and I've searched for on in the search bar, but came up with nothing. If someone could possibly link it I'd much appreciate it! I'm looking to level up before my local tourney and finally take the time to buckle down and learn
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
Thank you for the tips that button layout is pretty solid and I've decided to use it as my custom 2.

However my friend showed me an easier set up.

2 3 4 LB
1 RT RB LT

I've been practicing for a while now and this set up feels comfortable. I'm still far from as good as I use a to be but I've gotten some of my basic BNB combos back and I've just developed new muscle memory for run cancel.

Thank you for helping me :)
That's a really interesting button layout haha. I use this:
1 2 RT LT
3 4 RB LB

I don't even use the LB or RB at all, just use 1+2 or 1+3 and that way I pretty much don't have to move at all and don't have to use the pinky or anything. If that set up you have is working for you though good for you. Playing on stick is weird at first but you'll love it soon enough trust me.
 

BLOOD CAPTAIN X

GT = SIR JAY LEGEND add me on XBL for matches
lol that awkward moment where you realise you typed your own button layout wrong.

It's

1 2 4 LB
3 RT RB LT

I like this one because run cancels seem easier and b321 feel natural like it should it's our main carry linker.

Also it keeps 11212 where it is normally which I like.

All of Lao strings feel natural in my hands with this layout and nothing feels awkward.

You layout is basically the default one but swapped around the RB and RT which also works nicely too
 

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
Does anyone know a good string that's reliable and realtively safe/comboable outside of 112124? I just can't pull if off on pad consistently.
 

BLOOD CAPTAIN X

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Does anyone know a good string that's reliable and realtively safe/comboable outside of 112124? I just can't pull if off on pad consistently.
Yeah this string is pretty rough to pull off on pad 100% I personally am in the transition phase between controller and fight stick and I'll tell you 112124 is by no exaggeration about 3 times easier on stick and I'm not even used to it yet as I've owned it for less than 48 hours.

I find the issue is sliding your thumb like that and then having to follow up with a move requires too much for pad user. I tried doing 112124 > ex hat spin > 112124 > ex hat spin and it was so hard to pull off it just straight up wasn't worth it on stick however o got that block strong down in 2 tries.
 

Bildslash

Goro Lives 
Can you guys check if EX-Teleport to EX Throw damage got un-nerfed? We tested it in 2 consoles yesterday and this particular nerf was non-existent while all the other ones were.
It certainly got fixed. When the patch before CEO dropped KL's EX Telethrow damage was definitely 9% less. But then, a couple days later it returned to it's usual value of ~40%.
 
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I GOT HANDS

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So is B321 a Hard Knockdown, or just untechable?

Or is it neither and I'm just failing?