That works, practice hit confirming instead of going straight to ex low chakram, shaolin is very meter dependent if you use a bar you at least want to take 30% from them. B123 is -2 i believe so hit confirm b12 low ex chakram or go into b123
Makes sense - yeah I didn't mean to imply that the combo would end with the ex low chakram (e.g., you could continue with NJP, divekick, run, 3,4 xx upkick etc.). I was just trying to figure out the best second step after you land 221 xx DF2
Since your +10 you have options. Just mix it up at times with your 50/50 options. Also sometimes i like to run and d3 on block and then go into a quick string to see if i got them trying to counter poke me.
What makes Shaolin better at range? I'm guessing it's the low or high Chakaram. Can you EX Chakaram an opponent fullscreen and have time to run up and combo? Or is it just a better projectile than Straight Arrow? Does Shaolin gain any good fast (or safe) strings?
It varies for me on the situation. I like to mb up flying kick because it gets me out of the corner if I miss and if I hit then I still get out of the corner after d4. I also like the overhead option of flip kick and the pushback of flying kick...so it just depends on the situation. If I got the life lead, I'm using flying kick every time to push them away to midscreen zone which is what I think Shaolin's best range is. If I'm playing catch up and they have no bar, I do up flying kick, d4 so I can pressure on their wake-up...if it's not in the corner, I'll sometimes use flip kick lol
Shaolin has the low Chakram that the opponent HAS to respect, if they don't then you're just clipping their shins for free. If you can read the jump in, you can up flying kick or up chakram. You can keep them out forever if you make the right reads. But once they get close, you have the good low/overhead options that b1 and f2 give you and on hit you can mb low chakram into full combo or jip, 22 for standing reset to overhead/low/throw...on block you can either go for regular low chakram or the overhead flip kick at the end of the combo. He just has much better tools than Bojutsu by losing just a couple % of damage. I think it's worth it for sure.
Speaking from no experience with Shaolin, does B214, F24 and B14 have the same effect for that overhead/ low mixup game for Bojutsu? I know they're by no means fullscreen high/ low pressure, but Bojutsu definitely has low strings that should be respected, right?
1 - b214, f24 and b14 are the same strings all the way through. instead of b14 for Shaolin, I use b12 cuz it's just better and cancels better...but Bojutsu does have the low bo swing that is good at checking people in a certain distance.
Thanks for the rundown. I'll try spending more time Shaolin.
well don't play Shaolin just cuz I think it's better lol play whatever you are comfortable with. I just find Shaolin's more options better cuz I had tons of options with Batman in Injustice and it's nice having that on Kung Jin
Hahaha, I'm definitely not doing just because of that. I am curious as to what makes variations (in general) so different. I'm probably not at a high enough level to notice the subtle differences.
Hey sorry i have not replied to anyone in a while. But to answer all questions about Shaolin Kung Jin i will be making "The Advanced Shaolin Kung JIn Guide" as soon as i get back to YOMI this thursday. Thanks you guys all for your patience!
What makes ancestral worth learning considering it has a higher learning curve?
I use F3 to stuff armor, and if you do F3 db1, you can actually stuff armor into full combo
Do a JI2 then divekick then NJP RC 3,4 upkick for more optimal combos
Yea I just find this one easier to land online i like the 112 starter keeps em guessin