Tech Killer Frost - Corner Reverse Wake-Up Tech

[RunwayMafia]

Credit to @Ne'er-do-well

The timing is....odd, but you can reverse wake up's (similar to DD) in the corner after knocking them down.

As seen in the videos below are a few demonstrations of this tech. If performed corectly and it time, it will give you an advantage over some wake-up attacks.

Flash

Nightwing

@xKhaoTik
@RiBBz22
@Akromaniac27
@teh_kingdunch

edited by STORMS*

 

[RunwayMafia]

Post your findings. As I said in the other post, I just tested Flash and it works on his Lightning Charge.

 

[teh_kingdunch]

I'll say it again here.

Zod : works for both phantom strike and zod's charge. Both are punishable by the grab again for infinite unclashable meterless reset. His super is the only option
Lobo : Charge gets punished by the grab, toss recovers more quickly, can only be punished with a combo. His super gets him out.
Joker: The flower recovers fast, can be punished with a combo. His super works.
Batman : Slide is punished by the grab for the infinite. His super gets reversed and doesn't work, gets punished.

 

[RunwayMafia]

It completely stuffs Flash's Lightning Kick. (what do Flash players typically wake up with?)

 

[RunwayMafia]

It completely reverses his flying uppercut....he just went flying up and towards the corner, lol.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Try an u3 from the corner into it and dash. It could be her dash after hard knockdowns in general like with the Corner Remainders vid. Vary your timing to dash in slightly

 

[RunwayMafia]

Try an u3 from the corner into it and dash. It could be her dash after hard knockdowns in general like with the Corner Remainders vid. Vary your timing to dash in slightly

Yeah, I tagged you because I remember you posted that combo vid with some odd corner shenanigans.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Yeah, I tagged you because I remember you posted that combo vid with some odd corner shenanigans.

Cool, but see if that works too lol(I'm at work atm). Also, try the corner b1u3 and f3 combos ending in flash freeze and don't MB it and see if you get the same results. Im curious to see if the multi hits affect it in any way

 

[Sultan]

It completely reverses his flying uppercut....he just went flying up and towards the corner, lol.

Do we have enough time to punish the flying uppercut or lighting charge on whiff?

 

[Sultan]

Cool, but see if that works too lol(I'm at work atm). Also, try the corner b1u3 and f3 combos ending in flash freeze and don't MB it and see if you get the same results. Im curious to see if the multi hits affect it in any way

It doesn't effect it, I tested that first thing.

 

[Zyphox]

It completely stuffs Flash's Lightning Kick. (what do Flash players typically wake up with?)

LK hold and backdash completely invincible if done right, in this case LK hold then backdash into KF or forward dash, he even has enough frames to jump so to punish that you would have to do like 111 slide to have enough hits to catch him. alsosonic pound is a good wake up and is invincible on wake up on the way up, figure out how to punish all those options with one move and you'll be fine.

 

[teh_kingdunch]

Green Lantern : Lantern's Might recovers fast, can be punished with a combo. His super gets him out.

 

[Akromaniac27]

It doesn't effect it, I tested that first thing.

Ah nice. So is with just flash freeze or can you get something similar with U3?

 

[RunwayMafia]

Do we have enough time to punish the flying uppercut or lighting charge on whiff?

Updated OP with what I found against Flash. I'm not exactly sure if we have enough time to punish...I'll test. Right now I'm knee deep in finding out what wakeups get reversed. #oppenentwillbemindfucked

 

[teh_kingdunch]

Superman :

rising grab - combo punish
ice breath - punish with d1 into combo
scoop - combo punish
flying punch - punish with d2 into combo

His super will whiff above KF's head 80% of the time. Punish with a combo.

 

[WayoftheFist]

Damn. Looks like I came back home to killer frost at the right time.

 

[macro]

Credit to @Ne'er-do-well

The timing is....odd, but you can reverse wake up's (similar to DD) in the corner after knocking them down.

Flash

@xKhaoTik
@RiBBz22
@Akromaniac27
@teh_kingdunch

I the freeze grab your best move to stuff wake ups?

 

[RunwayMafia]

Superman :

rising grab - combo punish
ice breath - punish with d1 into combo
scoop - combo punish
flying punch - punish with d2 into combo

His super will whiff above KF's head 80% of the time. Punish with a combo.

I'm definetly interested in wake ups that end up getting reversed. So far almost every wake up I have tested I can get to totally reverse. I'm on Nightwing right now and I just got his escrima fury to go right into the corner...this is VERY much like the DD tech.

 

[RunwayMafia]

I the freeze grab your best move to stuff wake ups?

Well...if I suspect they are going to wake up I just typically bait and punish...but @Ne'er-do-well found that by doing the flash freeze it makes the complete wake up reverse.

 

[InFlames]

Wait, is this an infinite?

 

[Sultan]

Wait, is this an infinite?

Yep, any match up where a punish is possible, this is effectively an infinite. For some it's unclashable.

 

[Pan1cMode]

This looks like it might be an infinite on characters that don't have wakeups with back hitting hit boxes.

 

[Rickyraws]

Wait, is this an infinite?

Command grab is unblock able. If you can't escape it, we can just keep doing it.

 

[teh_kingdunch]

I'm definetly interested in wake ups that end up getting reversed. So far almost every wake up I have tested I can get to totally reverse. I'm on Nightwing right now and I just got his escrima fury to go right into the corner...this is VERY much like the DD tech.

There is really no point if the a character can get out of it, not counting a super. All of those I post are with reversed WUs and punishable with either a combo or infinite. Superman can't get out for example. Flash can just speed dodge and the grab will whiff. All characters with teleports, dodges or 2 ways WUs like DS escape as well. Also WUs with hitbox behind them screw this too.

 

[Sultan]

What remains to be tested is how delayed wake-ups interact with this set-up, if you can somehow un-reverse your wake-up via delaying your reversal, then there's the possibility to escape. But nobody's tested it yet.