What are you reading?
I think you might be reading Alien or Mileena's MU chart because you cannot be saying that about Kenshi
Yea he's joking. Anyways yea kenshi needs buffs.,
I read what you wrote and you covered most of the problems that make these matchups bad, not much to add really.
Which variation would you day I'd preferable vs Ermac? I'd say Possessed because BF2 in Possessed is literally the best. 11 frames Mid safe against Ermac, no hurtbox on the push itself, really helps out I feel, where as everything in Balanced is like 14 frames of startup, those 3 frames HUGE difference lol
All three are bad and awful choices vs Ermac, that's for sure xD
You can go Possessed or Kenjutsu. Makes really not much of a difference overall in that MU. I personally prefer Kenjutsu coz reflect is very useful especially vs MoS and im a sucker for parry.
Yeah I almost forgot about parry tbh xD
Pm me what you're referring to, I'm lost lol
From someone that plays the matchup all the time some of your points here are a little overexaggerated and you're missing some stuff lol. Prepare for a wall of text ;D
Easier to do against Mystic and Master of Souls though since Spectral can do it from a low height.
I actually didn't know that EX Reflect did that to the pound and because of how EX Reflect works like parry when you absorb some thing, you can EX Reflect get 5% and cancel into tele flurry and it punishes.From someone that plays the matchup all the time some of your points here are a little overexaggerated and you're missing some stuff lol. Prepare for a wall of text ;D
First of all a character having counteroptions to your options is just how fighting games work, doesn't necessarily mean it's a losing matchup. So him being able to ex soul blast you or teleport or catch your backdash doesn't mean you lose the matchup, none of that is guaranteed and it's all read based.
Secondly I think Balanced actually does ok against both Spectral and Mystic as long as you condition them correctly. Ermacs below average walkspeed actually helps you here because Kenshis walkspeed is actually good and it allows him to play a pretty decent footsie game against Ermac. You can do stuff like max range B1 then walk back to bait a poke and whiff punish it because Kenshi has the walkspeed for it, little things like that really help.
As for j3~soul blast I usually anti air him on reaction with ex rising karma pretty much every time so that's never really a problem for me. If I don't have meter and he goes for it though then yeah you usually need to respect it depending on how low he does it. If he does it pretty low it's plus so you have to respect a followup for the most part.
Another main reason I think Balanced does well against Spectral is because you get access to that armoured launcher to interrupt his flight pressure and get a full combo punish. Balanced gets a really good chance in the flight/interrupt/teleport meta compared to most characters, an armoured launcher really helps him with the air pressure. Just make sure to condition them/bait them with the occasional backdash/armour early on so that they end up teleporting to try and catch you backdashing/armouring and you'll get a full combo for it.
You're right that you need to limit your use of teleflurry against Ermac since he can just duck and teleport punish it, just make sure you get them blocking those DB4s. Bait with standing 1 whiffs as well.
I disagree with what you're saying about B124 though, you can poke out as long as you've got them thinking you won't. You're just playing right into their hands by saying stuff like that, they're going to get away with a bunch of gimmicks if you think you HAVE to respect it and sit there all day. If you show them respect at all times then they're going to get away with stuff like B124 into a mixup or B124 into another one, both of those things have gaps you can take advantage of. You can occasionally poke or armour if you know they're going to do something you can take advantage of.
As for F21D2 it doesn't matter if they stagger it or not, F21 is -14 and F21D1 has a gap so either way ex rising karma hits them. Only way for them to stay safe is to do F212 or F21~ex blast or whatever variation specific stuff is safe.
Another thing to note: raw BF2. For whatever reason (I'm going to assume travel time of Balanced's BF2) Spectral Ermac can't punish it reliably from about starting distance and onwards. DB1, F4, F2, B1, 2, 1, BF2 all either whiff or get blocked in time. Against Mystic however you can ONLY DO IT AT MAX DISTANCE. At any other closer distance he can just BF2/ex BF2 you no matter what so you can't afford to use it as much against that variation.
Oh and in case any of you didn't know Kenshis ENHANCED reflect in Balanced absorbs Ermac's groud pound so you can avoid 8% damage and get 5% health back if you time it right
I really don't think it's that tough a matchup for Balanced to be honest, one of the only times I ever pick him lol. Hope all this I've written helps all you Balanceds out there!
Yes. It's actually kinda funny how his worst variation does well against his two better variations.
Did't know the pound was absorbable xDFrom someone that plays the matchup all the time some of your points here are a little overexaggerated and you're missing some stuff lol. Prepare for a wall of text ;D
First of all a character having counteroptions to your options is just how fighting games work, doesn't necessarily mean it's a losing matchup. So him being able to ex soul blast you or teleport or catch your backdash doesn't mean you lose the matchup, none of that is guaranteed and it's all read based.
Secondly I think Balanced actually does ok against both Spectral and Mystic as long as you condition them correctly. Ermacs below average walkspeed actually helps you here because Kenshis walkspeed is actually good and it allows him to play a pretty decent footsie game against Ermac. You can do stuff like max range B1 then walk back to bait a poke and whiff punish it because Kenshi has the walkspeed for it, little things like that really help.
As for j3~soul blast I usually anti air him on reaction with ex rising karma pretty much every time so that's never really a problem for me. If I don't have meter and he goes for it though then yeah you usually need to respect it depending on how low he does it. If he does it pretty low it's plus so you have to respect a followup for the most part.
Another main reason I think Balanced does well against Spectral is because you get access to that armoured launcher to interrupt his flight pressure and get a full combo punish. Balanced gets a really good chance in the flight/interrupt/teleport meta compared to most characters, an armoured launcher really helps him with the air pressure. Just make sure to condition them/bait them with the occasional backdash/armour early on so that they end up teleporting to try and catch you backdashing/armouring and you'll get a full combo for it.
You're right that you need to limit your use of teleflurry against Ermac since he can just duck and teleport punish it, just make sure you get them blocking those DB4s. Bait with standing 1 whiffs as well.
I disagree with what you're saying about B124 though, you can poke out as long as you've got them thinking you won't. You're just playing right into their hands by saying stuff like that, they're going to get away with a bunch of gimmicks if you think you HAVE to respect it and sit there all day. If you show them respect at all times then they're going to get away with stuff like B124 into a mixup or B124 into another one, both of those things have gaps you can take advantage of. You can occasionally poke or armour if you know they're going to do something you can take advantage of.
As for F21D2 it doesn't matter if they stagger it or not, F21 is -14 and F21D1 has a gap so either way ex rising karma hits them. Only way for them to stay safe is to do F212 or F21~ex blast or whatever variation specific stuff is safe.
Another thing to note: raw BF2. For whatever reason (I'm going to assume travel time of Balanced's BF2) Spectral Ermac can't punish it reliably from about starting distance and onwards. DB1, F4, F2, B1, 2, 1, BF2 all either whiff or get blocked in time. Against Mystic however you can ONLY DO IT AT MAX DISTANCE. At any other closer distance he can just BF2/ex BF2 you no matter what so you can't afford to use it as much against that variation.
Oh and in case any of you didn't know Balanceds ENHANCED reflect absorbs Ermac's ground pound so you can avoid 8% damage and get 5% health back if you time it right
I really don't think it's that tough a matchup for Balanced to be honest, one of the only times I ever pick him lol. Hope all this I've written helps all you Balanceds out there!
Haha yeah I didn't know either but someone found that for some reason Jacqui's meterless absorb (which is supposed to absorb projectiles but absorbs ground pound for whatever reason) absorbs ground pound so I tried it with Balanced and it didn't work with the meterless one but works with the ex one lol.
Something similar happens with tremor up rocks. Regular parry fails, but ex version absorbs them.
