I don't use Balanced competitively. I don't have to use a character competitively to make my opinion legit, to a bunch of people who don't use anything competitively. You guys don't understand the risk/reward of picking up a character and using it in tournaments to prove a point.Fucking Tweedy show us your balanced gameplay already! Such a dick tease.
120% agree with this post.I don't use Balanced competitively. I don't have to use a character competitively to make my opinion legit, to a bunch of people who don't use anything competitively. You guys don't understand the risk/reward of picking up a character and using it in tournaments to prove a point.
Literally the most I can get out of it is "damn cuz you was right", while on the other hand I could lose more games while adjusting to match ups, resulting in loss of potential winnings and placements.
I like talking shit about tier placements, but it's not serious enough to where I would get stressed out about it and try to prove a point with my tournament life. None of you would do it either, so lol.
I told some guy in a twitch chat that I think Kano is really good, and he said "then use him in tournament fat boy". What, am I supposed to play any character that people disagree with me about?
Balanced is good imo. If you guys don't think it is, that's cool. The world spins.
Can't you do some causal matches witch good players while using Balanced? Just asking.I don't use Balanced competitively. I don't have to use a character competitively to make my opinion legit, to a bunch of people who don't use anything competitively. You guys don't understand the risk/reward of picking up a character and using it in tournaments to prove a point.
Literally the most I can get out of it is "damn cuz you was right", while on the other hand I could lose more games while adjusting to match ups, resulting in loss of potential winnings and placements.
I like talking shit about tier placements, but it's not serious enough to where I would get stressed out about it and try to prove a point with my tournament life. None of you would do it either, so lol.
I told some guy in a twitch chat that I think Kano is really good, and he said "then use him in tournament fat boy". What, am I supposed to play any character that people disagree with me about?
Balanced is good imo. If you guys don't think it is, that's cool. The world spins.
Can't you do some causal matches witch good players while using Balanced? Just asking.
Last one was Pig mu chart.Is there any updated matchup chart for Balanced Kenshi? If not I would at least like to know what Balanced worst matchups are. (Top 5-10 in your opinion.)
I know I'm not great at matchups and whatnot. But Pyro Tanya is not one of his worst matchups (I actually like that matchup tbh). I don't think Ninjutsu is that bad as well. I played a very good Buzz saw the other day and found that you have to play suuuuper patient against him up close so I can see that as a bad mu, nothing crazy though.Last one was Pig mu chart.
Now the players that still use Balanced are still coming to terms with October patch and probably not in the mood to do another one lol.
Worst matchups imo are (no order)
Liu Kang (Dragon's Fire, used to be 8-2 and his worst mu, now it's more like 7-3), Mileena (All variations), Reptile (Nimble), Tanya (Pyro), Predator (Hqt), Scorpion (all variations, yes, inferno too), Kung Lao (Buzzsaw and Hat Trick), Raiden (Displacer).
There are more, but I would highlight these ones over the rest.
Pyro has the amount of zoning and mobility options to give problems. Prepatch I agree she lost the mu, now it's definitely different. But it's probably the last of my list if it was ordered.I know I'm not great at matchups and whatnot. But Pyro Tanya is not one of his worst matchups (I actually like that matchup tbh). I don't think Ninjutsu is that bad as well. I played a very good Buzz saw the other day and found that you have to play suuuuper patient against him up close so I can see that a bad mu, nothing crazy though.
I don't even attempt Balanced against Hqt because Possessed does much better in the matchup Imo. And I agree with the others you listed.
Can u please explain? I prefer to use possessed in this situation since he has access to the teleport to close in space. With balanced, i get beat in the zoning battle with the air fbs.Balanced beats Pyro 6-4 imo.
Any character with a teleport is nightmare for balanced.Pyro has the amount of zoning and mobility options to give problems. Prepatch I agree she lost the mu, now it's definitely different. But it's probably the last of my list if it was ordered.
Ninjutsu is actually a nightmare, since in addition to being able to full combo you on reaction into vortex if you happen to miss a teleflurry like the other scorps can do, he adds godlike range. So in this matchup Kenshi can't zone and can't play an equal midrange game, he is forced to pressure.
Buzzsaw is crazy in my opinion since again he is better everywhere. His hats basically give him fullscreen pressure, he can even punish successful reflects like Mileena. His mobility is amazing, the threat of his divekick practically nullifies your antiair game (I miss you exkarma), and again, he has ex teleport to punish missed teleflurrys into 40%.
About shinnok, I'm not sure yet, but I find the matchup easier than before.
Reflect vs fireballs, higher meterless damage. I feel like jump 1 in non-Possessed variations and regular rising karma are really good anti airs vs Tanya's jump 2. Just D2 alone isn't good enough IMO. With Possessed I try to NJP but that can be trip guarded. Jump 1 and rk are much safer options.Can u please explain? I prefer to use possessed in this situation since he has access to the teleport to close in space. With balanced, i get beat in the zoning battle with the air fbs.
I wouldn't say ANY character with a teleport. Some are terrible, yes, but not all are nightmare worthy.Any character with a teleport is nightmare for balanced.
You better list what variatoins of the characters you have in mind when listing them because some are not going to be so obvious. Brawler is considered better than Hollywood by some Cassies for example so it's hard to say what you consider best variation of each character.I'm gonna post a little match up chart I think. Not sure if I posted one before on here but this one will probably be a bit different. It's gonna be very generic. No variations and there are a few that admittedly I do not have a ton of experience vs. Just wanna get my opinions out there and maybe ruffle some feathers. It's going by best variation vs Kenshi. Covert Ops and Brawler do not have significant advantage over Kenshi, for example. Sonya and Cassie are listed with Demo and Hollywood in mind.
I think Shinnok, Takeda, Quan and Sektor could all be 5-5s, but I didn't want this list to be super boring lol. I'd say those matches are all like 5.5-4.5 or 4.5-5.5, if you want to get technical.
7-3
Ferra/Torr
Kung Jin
Kung Lao
6-4
Sub Zero
Goro
Leatherface
Shinnok
Takeda
Johnny Cage
Reptile
Erron Black
5-5
Kitana
Liu Kang
Ermac
Predator
Bo Rai Cho
Tremor
Cyrax
Tanya
Jacqui
D'vorah
Raiden
Kotal Khan
Jason
Cyber Sub Zero
4-6
Sektor
Smoke
Mileena
Quan Chi
Scorpion
Kano
3-7
Sonya
Cassie
This is all strictly Possessed, of course.
Don't know why isn't mileena a 3-7/2-8 matchup for Kenshi tbh. Teleport is rendered useless in this mu. At least in the Sonya and Cassie mu teleport is still kinda viable.I'm gonna post a little match up chart I think. Not sure if I posted one before on here but this one will probably be a bit different. It's gonna be very generic. No variations and there are a few that admittedly I do not have a ton of experience vs. Just wanna get my opinions out there and maybe ruffle some feathers. It's going by best variation vs Kenshi. Covert Ops and Brawler do not have significant advantage over Kenshi, for example. Sonya and Cassie are listed with Demo and Hollywood in mind.
I think Shinnok, Takeda, Quan and Sektor could all be 5-5s, but I didn't want this list to be super boring lol. I'd say those matches are all like 5.5-4.5 or 4.5-5.5, if you want to get technical.
7-3
Ferra/Torr
Kung Jin
Kung Lao
6-4
Sub Zero
Goro
Leatherface
Shinnok
Takeda
Johnny Cage
Reptile
Erron Black
5-5
Kitana
Liu Kang
Ermac
Predator
Bo Rai Cho
Tremor
Cyrax
Tanya
Jacqui
D'vorah
Raiden
Kotal Khan
Jason
Cyber Sub Zero
4-6
Sektor
Smoke
Mileena
Quan Chi
Scorpion
Kano
3-7
Sonya
Cassie
This is all strictly Possessed, of course.
4-6
Smoke
Curious about these two in particular?3-7
Cassie
Kenshi doesn't really need to teleport vs Mileena imo. B1 is great at stuffing regular roll and EX roll simultaneously due to the active frames and double hits. D3 low profiles his D1 but it's pretty minus on block, so she can't mash it.Don't know why isn't mileena a 3-7/2-8 matchup for Kenshi tbh. Teleport is rendered useless in this mu. At least in the Sonya and Cassie mu teleport is still kinda viable.
I feel like Cassie dominates mid range footsies(her D4 and mid are both faster than Kenshi's) and counterpoking(D3 is only -3 and low profiles Kenshi's D1) in this match up. She doesn't have one thing that beats every teleport option, but between run under 242 and flip kick, she does pretty well. She can react to EX overhead with EX nutpunch.Curious about these two in particular?