General/Other - Cybernetic Kano's Cybernetic Variation Discussion Thread

[Jupe]

Im waiting on new stream equipment. But I will probably be able to stream before it comes as well




51%? I got 50 from 112. Mind sharing notations for 51?

112db1 b312 112db3 d3 112db3mb njp 112bf3 iirc, the timing is a complete bitch though.

 

[MrInsaynne]

haha it must be because i was just trying that a little while ago and couldnt get it. gotta try again.

 

[gibster13]

I would love you guys to check out my cybernetic games and give me some tips, seeing as there seems to be so few of us now. NGL I get bodied the first game

@MrInsaynne @Jupe @Undeadjim @Phosferrax @SaltShaker (if you still play him ;p) @any I have missed

 

[luis]

try vs big hitbox this combo... 112 db1 b312 3 db3 d3 113db3mb njp b1 2 12 ... 48% and restand .. credits to heygeorge...

https://www.facebook.com/EMPEROR.FEAR/videos/vb.100004569401763/638695682959406/?type=2&theater

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=638695682959406

 

[Jupe]

I would love you guys to check out my cybernetic games and give me some tips, seeing as there seems to be so few of us now. NGL I get bodied the first game

@MrInsaynne @Jupe @Undeadjim @Phosferrax @SaltShaker (if you still play him ;p) @any I have missed

I'm pretty bad at analyzing games to be honest, but I htink you were doing very well. The few "mistakes" from this set I noticed were lack of whiff punishing after backdashes and you were doing a lot of d4s (and some other buttons) in situations where they have no chance to hit. D4 is really good but it does have a lot of whiff recovery so even if you don't get whiff punished, you lose the chance to space yourself better etc.

 

[gibster13]

I'm pretty bad at analyzing games to be honest, but I htink you were doing very well. The few "mistakes" from this set I noticed were lack of whiff punishing after backdashes and you were doing a lot of d4s (and some other buttons) in situations where they have no chance to hit. D4 is really good but it does have a lot of whiff recovery so even if you don't get whiff punished, you lose the chance to space yourself better etc.

Ok cheers. I noticed the lack of whiff punishing myself a second ago. And I like the d4 comment, I get overconfident with that normal.

 

[NHDR]

I was literally going to say what Jupe said verbatim. Don't throw D4 out unless you're in range, especially against Jax, since he has good whiff punish tools. There were also a few instances where I thought you could EX Up Ball for the AA. Good play other than that!

 

[thlityoursloat]

Ok cheers. I noticed the lack of whiff punishing myself a second ago. And I like the d4 comment, I get overconfident with that normal.

You're not backdashing enough, abuse that shit.

 

[gibster13]

If only the rest of tym was like the cybernetic thread

 

[Parasurama]

If only the rest of tym was like the cybernetic thread

This is not really advice, but I was curious why you did not do that b2 rangey mid much.... when I was looking at Cybernetic, it seemed like one of his best spacing tools that was variation specific?

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I don't find much use for B2. Too slow

 

[luis]

Anti backdash in wakeup when you do a hard knockdown

 

[gibster13]

This is not really advice, but I was curious why you did not do that b2 rangey mid much.... when I was looking at Cybernetic, it seemed like one of his best spacing tools that was variation specific?

I don't find his b2 useful. The tip of its range is normal where I would throw a knife instead. It's too slow.

 

[MsMiharo]

B2 is pretty good. Keep it max range, use it for staggers or b2 straight laser which is pretty safe and can give a full combo if your read is on point.

 

[gibster13]

Honestly I was just shredded by Ketchup and Sektor

There was little to nothing I could do, but exploit his mistakes.

How does one fight sektor ?

6% Knives would help this match up along with many

 

[thlityoursloat]

Honestly I was just shredded by Ketchup and Sektor

There was little to nothing I could do, but exploit his mistakes.

How does one fight sektor ?

6% Knives would help this match up along with many

I don't like this MU at all, trades are awful and Sektor overall controls space much better, just go with Commando or CT and rush him down.

 

[gibster13]

I don't like this MU at all, trades are awful and Sektor overall controls space much better, just go with Commando or CT and rush him down.

It was sooooo bad, surprised I took rounds

6-4 even a 7-3??

 

[thlityoursloat]

It was sooooo bad, surprised I took rounds

6-4 even a 7-3??

This is why I refuse to believe Cyber is top tier material, he does good against characters without projectiles but BLOWS against characters who can actually throw projectiles back.

 

[NHDR]

I do recall reading that Sektor is a bit of a hard counter to Cyber. As with any zoning character playing a bad zoning matchup, rush Sektor down. Save your meter for EX knives and push him to the corner with ender Kano Ball.

Normally I'd say "pick CT" but that seems obvious. Plus, I assume you want to actually play Cyber regardless.

 

[gibster13]

The issue is I'm spending a bar on knives to get what he gets meterlessy. I say either;

1) reduced chip on knives a make them do 6%-7%
2)high and 8%

 

[MrInsaynne]

I have yet to fight sektor so i am unfamiliar and dont know whether its a good/bad/even match up

 

[Jupe]

Honestly I was just shredded by Ketchup and Sektor

There was little to nothing I could do, but exploit his mistakes.

How does one fight sektor ?

6% Knives would help this match up along with many

I also feel the match up is bad for cyber but haven't played the mu that much with cyber so might just be unfamilirity. CT - Sektor used to be really good match up for kano as sektor could never end his strings in uprockets if you had a bar but not sure how it is after the patch.

 

[Gofer_MK]

The issue is I'm spending a bar on knives to get what he gets meterlessy. I say either;

1) reduced chip on knives a make them do 6%-7%
2)high and 8%

STAPH. Dont bother with system balancing, focuse on what you can do.

 

[gibster13]

STAPH. Dont bother with system balancing, focuse on what you can do.

and what I can do is nothing in that matchup but counter pick

 

[Gofer_MK]

and what I can do is nothing in that matchup but counter pick

So, if you can not figure it out, then yes, counterpick, do not try to come up with some system balancing changes because NRS will not listen to you, so it is pointless to create a wishlist. You have to work with what you currently have.