Kabal MU Thread 2013

[ForeverKing]

Is my input even welcome on TYM?

6-4 cage
7-3 kitana
7-3 scorpion
4-6 kung lao

These numbers are based off countless offline matches against the best in the world with each of these characters. I don't think any of them will argue these numbers.

I agree with Cage Kitana and Scorp, but not Lao. Kabal beats Lao 6-4

 

[ForeverKing]

Fucking finally. A Kabal player being honest with his matchup chart, that's what I like to see lol. I pretty much agree with the whole chart

 

[Lulzlou]

ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE ACTUALLY AGREES WITH WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS ENTIRE TIME. On big stages this is 6/4 not no damn 7-3 and on smaller stage is 5-5 IGF

I can respect that.
I know how to play this mu perfectly but the only problem is me not having the experience in an actual match. Plus I don't want to get blown up because people can't accept the fact that kabal has some holes lol.

 

[ForeverKing]

Some of these match-ups are completely inaccurate.

I think they are fine. If you are trying to say that some might need to be a little more in Kabal's favor, than possibly

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

Skarlet kabal is definitely 7-3 for kabal. Ill make a MU chart soon for kabal but I see people trying to say skarlet kabal is 6-4, there is no way in hell she even goes close to that. Its extremely hard to do anything. Kabal can iagb all he wants skarlet can't throw daggers, when she armors through iagb you can either block or jump over on reaction time and all her red slide moves put her at disadvantage or are punishable for a full combo.

 

[GGA soonk]

I agree with Cage Kitana and Scorp, but not Lao. Kabal beats Lao 6-4

PL disagrees with you. If you ever came out here I'd teach you the matchup like I did for him.

 

[ForeverKing]

PL disagrees with you. If you ever came out here I'd teach you the matchup like I did for him.

I'd beat your Lao with Kabal. I would teach you the matchup

 

[xInfra Deadx]

PL disagrees with you. If you ever came out here I'd teach you the matchup like I did for him.

Enlighten me.

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

PL disagrees with you. If you ever came out here I'd teach you the matchup like I did for him.

I'll show you both the MU. Ask Maxter and FOREVER KING how I play lao. Offline Kabal wouldn't lose that MU at the highest level.

 

[CURBOLICOUS]

K7L33THA change sonya to 7-3, Jax to 7-3 and kenshi to 7-3.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Ok after going all emo about the cage match, I'm back to being reasonable and saying 7 3 in kabals favor. Now you guys are saying 6 4 though? hmm....

 

[K7L33THA]

K7L33THA change sonya to 7-3, Jax to 7-3 and kenshi to 7-3.

For real? Daaaaamn your killing me Curbo.

 

[Relaxedstate]

I think Kabal-Raiden could be 6-4. If the raiden player knows all of Kabals holes then Teleport could be useful.
... Then again Raiden is an enigma like that isn't he? Great on paper but garbage IRL

 

[Faded Dreams V]

*Stares at numbers in MU chart*

Holy fuck...

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

I'll show you both the MU. Ask Maxter and FOREVER KING how I play lao. Offline Kabal wouldn't lose that MU at the highest level.

Can you give your honest opinion on cage vs Kabal since you play both characters at the highest level? Do you think it's different on different stages? And if so how different?

 

[Soul Bound X]

Can you give your honest opinion on cage vs Kabal since you play both characters at the highest level? Do you think it's different on different stages? And if so how different?

i also want to know this. there is no way this can be 6-4

 

[Soul Bound X]

and also. why isn't the kabal-lao mu 5-5? just curious.

 

[Death]

Mileena is 6-4. She has good tools vs Kabal. At least compared to other characters. Sonya is 4-6. She has good tools but still gets zoned hard. Kabal beats KL too slightly. But looks good K7.

 

[Skitzo]

Mileena is 6-4. She has good tools vs Kabal. At least compared to other characters. Sonya is 4-6. She has good tools but still gets zoned hard. Kabal beats KL too slightly. But looks good K7.

What tools besides low hitbox?

 

[Death]

What tools besides low hitbox?

Well kabal can't machine gun iagb like he could 95% of the rest of the cast. Mileena can full combo punish that. She can even start her own zoning with ground sais and ias and telekick Kabals zoning on reaction. Kabal is obviously very limited on the rushdown part too cuz of her low hitbox. These tools alone make the mu a lot better

 

[Jimmypotato]

i disagree with all these numbers, we haven't seen any of these totally nutty match up numbers proven in tournament, this can't be real,


troll post?? don't troll the MKC K7, we are tender and have feelings.

 

[K7L33THA]

i disagree with all these numbers, we haven't seen any of these totally nutty match up numbers proven in tournament, this can't be real,


troll post?? don't troll the MKC K7, we are tender and have feelings.

For the record these are not MY personal mu numbers. Just a reflection of what the community feels. I'm trying to find the right balance with everyones input.

PS: I know we're tender

 

[K7L33THA]

Well kabal can't machine gun iagb like he could 95% of the rest of the cast. Mileena can full combo punish that. She can even start her own zoning with ground sais and ias and telekick Kabals zoning on reaction. Kabal is obviously very limited on the rushdown part too cuz of her low hitbox. These tools alone make the mu a lot better

This one I actually do think is 7-3. Yea you can't zone her, but Kabal can punish her very well. Its all about baiting her tele's. It can be tricky for Kabal to build meter in this mu though. Only thing really annoying about her is the constant 50/50's.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

My final opinion is that kabal beats both cage and sonya 7-3. SOnya really doesn't do that much better than cage in this matchup, maybe a little better but not significantly. CURBOLICOUS I also want to know what you think on cage.

 

[Chaosphere]

Raiden 7-3? Whoever decided this:Why? 6-4, imo