Kabal MU Thread 2013

[Skitzo]

Well kabal can't machine gun iagb like he could 95% of the rest of the cast. Mileena can full combo punish that. She can even start her own zoning with ground sais and ias and telekick Kabals zoning on reaction. Kabal is obviously very limited on the rushdown part too cuz of her low hitbox. These tools alone make the mu a lot better

Iagbs are baits though, at the highest level the Kabal player knows this. Mileena is ass slow, I actually don't mind her having a low hitbox because of her frame data. Gotta agree with K7

 

[Soul Bound X]

why is kung lao at disadvantage you guys?

 

[K7L33THA]

why is kung lao at disadvantage you guys?

Kabal controls the air. Can punish tele on reaction w standing 4 into reset. Lao has to take all the risk in the MU IMO.

 

[Soul Bound X]

Kabal controls the air. Can punish tele on reaction w standing 4 into reset. Lao has to take all the risk in the MU IMO.

does lao have to teleport and go in the air though? and my character cage can punish tele on reaction too, that doesnt mean its not useful though. what laos do you play that make you feel like its 6-4

 

[Soul Bound X]

I'd beat your Lao with Kabal. I would teach you the matchup

why does pl think the mu isn't 6-4 and you do? is he just playing the wrong kabals?

 

[ForeverKing]

why does pl think the mu isn't 6-4 and you do? is he just playing the wrong kabals?

PL changes his opinion on matchups daily lol. He has said the matchup is 4-6, 5-5, and 6-4, just depends on whatever he feels like saying on that day I guess lol. He does well vs Kabals though. I think it is still in Kabal's favor for sure, I haven't even been using Kabal seriously for over a month now and I can beat almost every Kung Lao I play with him already

 

[Soul Bound X]

PL changes his opinion on matchups daily lol. He has said the matchup is 4-6, 5-5, and 6-4, just depends on whatever he feels like saying on that day I guess lol. He does well vs Kabals though. I think it is still in Kabal's favor for sure, I haven't even been using Kabal seriously for over a month now and I can beat almost every Kung Lao I play with him already

yeah but ive played your kabal with cage before and ive beaten you before and that mu is worse. you probably beat most kung laos because you are just a better player than most people and you really know the character. not every lao is on foxys or pl's or your level.

 

[ForeverKing]

yeah but ive played your kabal with cage before and ive beaten you before and that mu is worse. you probably beat most kung laos because you are just a better player than most people and you really know the character. not every lao is on foxys or pl's or your level.

Well like I said, I have only been using Kabal for less than month now. I beat Curbo's Lao if that means anything lol. We should play sometime today or something

 

[Soul Bound X]

Well like I said, I have only been using Kabal for less than month now. I beat Curbo's Lao if that means anything lol. We should play sometime today or something

yeah, definatelyy

 

[Eddy Wang]

Kabal Run Trains in the entire Cast

 

[Zero 1]

Where are Reo's numbers?

 

[DoctrineDark]

I think vs cyrax is 6-4, cyrax have great options against kabal in fact I found a 100% safe way to neutralize his ND or EX ND on wakeup, no invisibility frames on wakeup or parry for Kabal and not just in wake up, there are ways to neutralize his ex nd at certain distances

 

[K7L33THA]

I think vs cyrax is 6-4, cyrax have great options against kabal in fact I found a 100% safe way to neutralize his ND or EX ND on wakeup, no invisibility frames on wakeup or parry for Kabal and not just in wake up, there are ways to neutralize his ex nd at certain distances

Interesting, do you think with this new Cyrax tech it could make human Rax 5-5?

 

[Zoidberg747]

Somecubanguy has the Baraka matchup at 4-6. Personally I think it's crazy but I can see a few reasons why 7-3 MIGHT be an option:

• Blade Charge can armor through iAGBs and go under misplaced iAGBs
• D4 can somewhat contain Kabal at mid range
• If Baraka puts kabal in a corner and stays about a blade charge range away, he prevents Kabal from zoning and can defend better against rushdown
• Spin gets you out of pressure pretty easily
• Slices pressure can gain some meter for breakers and armor
• Kabal can't really punish a max range blade charge

my .02$

 

[Seven]

If Kabal got removed from the game...........
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[DoctrineDark]

Interesting, do you think with this new Cyrax tech it could make human Rax 5-5?

I doubt it because the cyrax damage is much greater and easier (resets), also recovery of his bombs is much better. One of the things to which I refer is the correct use of teleport and 12... anyway I have new things with both, I'm finishing the cyrax vid where I shown anti ex nd and more

 

[Espio]

Jade is 3-7 in my opinion.

 

[Seven]

1 poke to interrupt pressure into an iafb is not crappy at all.

Any time during ndc pressure that a kabal does a d1/d3 on block ermac can iafb out.

D1 lift is not as risky as you think. It works more often then not. If kabal is pressuring, he is pressing buttons like a mad man due to the technical aspect, the d1 lift interupts and catches you by surprise.

Also by the way i mentioned i am now approaching the mu, im aiming to drain your meter.

I disagree, I think it's 7-3 or 8-2 for Kabal. Up close, Ermac is USELESS! Mid screen, Kabal can ex through everything, and at full screen, Kabal can out zone Ermac and even punish Ermac's zoning.

 

[Seven]

K7L33THA change sonya to 7-3, Jax to 7-3 and kenshi to 7-3.

You know I would really like to play you some casuals, but without you using Kabal. I'm busy with school for the next 2 weeks but after that, would you be down? Kabal seriously ruins the game, and I'm still trying to get my Liu Kang good enough to fight Kabal, cause Ermac isn't going to cut it.

 

[Dizz_88]

possible 5-5 against kenshi? the downplaying needs to stop. kabal is kenshi's worst mu and i think its 7-3 kabal.

 

[Skitzo]

possible 5-5 against kenshi? the downplaying needs to stop. kabal is kenshi's worst mu and i think its 7-3 kabal.

lol that mu is not as free as you think.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

If a Kabal player is Losing to cage... I don't know what to say. He literally has every single tool to deal with cage AND more.

 

[K7L33THA]

possible 5-5 against kenshi? the downplaying needs to stop. kabal is kenshi's worst mu and i think its 7-3 kabal.

Nah 6-4 at worst. Kenshi's just need to level up in the MU.

 

[Wemfs]

Those 8-2 match ups are loads of fun.

 

[zaf]

I disagree, I think it's 7-3 or 8-2 for Kabal. Up close, Ermac is USELESS! Mid screen, Kabal can ex through everything, and at full screen, Kabal can out zone Ermac and even punish Ermac's zoning.

maybe you are playing the mu wrong then.

if he can ex through everything, then make him have no meter. make that the goal of your MU. Once he has no meter, he really has no way in, you can zone the fuck out of him.

at full screen its even. fireballs lower ermac under iagb. he can teleport on iagb. saw can be teleported on, you can iafb over a saw. a badly spaced iagb can be tkp'd. he really doesnt punish ermacs zoning unless he is being obvious.