i promise you i am not making it up. it is in the guide as well, although my detailed instructions should help you more than the guide (guide only mentions that there is a 2 frame window, but not when to push it). stick with it and i guarantee you can get it... just follow my instructions on getting down when to time the last input... you must skip one of the slams before the final input....
I still only get 6 slams max... Even by your directions. You have to be throwing an extra hit or something. Can you cap it and post it?
I can confirm this...it's a 7 hit throw for the same damage (13%) as the 6-hit throw. They should make it more for how hard it is to land. I must have tried it like 100 times before I got the last input to register. And yes, you have to skip one of the slams and hit 1+2+3+4 during the 5th slam. The guide should've been more clear about when the 2 frame window is.
We discussed the viability of Ground Pound setups starting on post 36 if you want to check that out. I haven't tested anything with the EX Wave, but I can't imagine it being any different than other attacks that knock down. The opponent can still roll or do an invincible wake up attack to avoid the Ground Pound.
You don't mind if I use your post as the layout for the front page? This is actually a really good format, and I need to update the thing badly.
You should use the move properties from my list since they're far more accurate than the training mode properties.
Not sure what you mean by "faulty post," but if you wanna use my post, you don't have to ask permission; that's why I put it up there.
A poorly telegraphed ground pound and X-ray, along with the fact that his command grabs aren't really command grabs, are things that tick me off most about Jax, and probably the reason why you haven't seen one on a tourney stream. As far as I know, the ground pound can be used to duck projectiles, so you can throw it out if you sense one coming and then dash in follow up
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or whatever. Also, it's been said that Jax is an "in-your-face" kind of character, so assuming you're pressuring your opponent correctly, you can throw out a GP as they're turtling in anticipation of another block string assault.In high-level play Ground Pound is just too slow. Unless you can somehow force the opponent into a situation where they cannot move for an extended period of time, it's virtually impossible to hit with the Ground Pound. Players with even halfway decent reactions can jump it easily.A poorly telegraphed ground pound and X-ray, along with the fact that his command grabs aren't really command grabs, are things that tick me off most about Jax, and probably the reason why you haven't seen one on a tourney stream. As far as I know, the ground pound can be used to duck projectiles, so you can throw it out if you sense one coming and then dash in follow up
But then again, I'm a scrub, so this may or may not be the best advice. But if you ask me, it seems to be the only way. Jax is gimmicky like that.
I have GP ducked projectiles against the CPU, if that counts. As for it being useless in high-level play, that's what I meant. But then all Jax has left is what...his dash punch? In terms of combos, Ground pound>nj. 1>dash>Boot Kamp>Ex dash punch is Jax's only way (as far as I know) to clear 30% damage outside of the corner. And according to guys like James Chen, you gotta have 30+ percenters in order to roll with the top tier characters.
I feel Jax is low tier, but at the top of the low tier characters. He has to work harder than 90% of the cast, but he's still capable. A few minor changes would make him a solid mid-tier, but we'll have to see if NRS addresses this. In fact, I think it's time for a "let's improve Jax" thread. I have a casual session tomorrow and a tournament on Sunday, so I'll play some Jax and see how he fairs against solid competition, then make that thread.I have GP ducked projectiles against the CPU, if that counts. As for it being useless in high-level play, that's what I meant. But then all Jax has left is what...his dash punch? In terms of combos, Ground pound>nj. 1>dash>Boot Kamp>Ex dash punch is Jax's only way (as far as I know) to clear 30% damage outside of the corner. And according to guys like James Chen, you gotta have 30+ percenters in order to roll with the top tier characters.
It's so frustrating being a Jax player.
Only thing I would point out is that we kind of need more than just high, mid, low, overhead. Jax's 2 (BP) for example. It's techincally a high attack, and whiffs if an opponent is crouching. But if the crouching opponent is blocking, 2 no longer whiffs. I don't know if we want to call this a special-high or what, but it's not a high and it's not a mid, it's like a combination of the two.
Let me know how it goes, man. Good luck! I'm looking to test my mettle against some of the Street Fighter heads who have been wiping the floor with me on a weekly basis this upcoming Wednesday. Let me know if I'm wasting my time. Here's to hoping I can finally be competent at ONE fighting game.
Why the hell can't I do this! I assume it's a just frame move for the ones past 2+3?
Anyone able to confirm this?
Uh, he's not alone here. Sheeva is the same. Baraka has limtied juggling power to that of Jax. It doesn't mean they can't be competitive if the moves hit or were setup better. But you have to work with what you have. Jax hits hard, but when other character are breaking 30% without a problem and 40% with a little bit of effort, it does put him at a damage disadvantage similar to Sheeva/Baraka. I'm going to pick him up for a few days and see is he a better character for me. I'm not fond of juggle heavy characters, so it's not a problem for me.
I don't quite understand what you're saying. Are you doing 1>2, or 1+2? 1+2 isn't a move to my knowledge.
The max slams is 5 without the final input.
Yeah but Sheeva's all end up over 30% even to almost 40%.
Wtf! I dont get the 7th hit...
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