Injustice Complete Character Tier List + With Rumored Patch Updated 6-17-13

[YOMI MITYEAP]

I don't know the matchups of the characters above and below DS, but dead in the middle of the pack sounds just about right for Stroke. He's even on most of his matches, has advantage in as many as he does disadvantage and by roughly the same margins. 14 sounds low for as adept as he is, but I think it's really just illustrative of how good the mid-tier characters still actually are.

I can agree with this for sure, mid tiers are very solid in this game and the top 8s have been diverse, so overall, I dnt mind it bcuz DS will always be able to do well in a tournament.

 

[RWDY Nori]

I feel like some people like to mix up the tiers at the top just to make their list stand out and be controversial or thought-provoking when at the end of the day we all know this is Superman and Black Adam's game with Batman and Scorpion right behind them.

*not taking into account patch rumours

"We" don't know this is Superman/BA's game at all, that's a personal opinion. WW is better than Scorpion and possibly Batman as well. GL is a pain in the ass too. And Chris G would not be winning w/GA if he was a crappy char. Superman/Scorpion are cheap, they are not the best chars. There is a difference in cheapness and toolsets

IGAU is so much more balanced than people give it credit for, it's starting to get sadder and sadder.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Sometimes #1 isn't determined by how many people can fight against that #1 on a better level, but by how much the #1 dominates the mid/bottom of a cast list. Sure, Killer Frost may have 5-5s against AM Supes and whatnot, but she probably 6-4 7-3s the rest of the cast moreso than any of those characters.

uh superman definitely 6 4s/ 7 3s a whole bunch of chars (grundy, shazam, bane, lobo, lex luthor, and etc. dnt even need to list all the 6 4s he has). Overall she is a beast, but there is no way she is number one outright without her being like kabal is in mk9 where he just lost to no one and even whooped up on some of the top tiers (cage, kitana, cyrax) and etc. I think she is in the discussion for number 1, but I'm waiting till ppl learn a lot more about IGAU before ppl can start saying who is number, just my thoughts on the situation of who is number one.

 

[RWDY Nori]

I'm waiting till ppl learn a lot more about IGAU before ppl can start saying who is number, just my thoughts on the situation of who is number one.

For now, granted we have a lot left to learn about the game as you stated, I'm going w/WW as the best

 

[testyourpatience]

Please feel free to read my quotations and read the last page...wow. hahah. I was kidding and basically mocking piggy for pointing out that my KF post was late.

that guy was complaining about batman a few days ago (yet he uses scorpion) and he blew a gasket because i tried to give him pointers.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

For now, granted we have a lot left to learn about the game as you stated, I'm going w/WW as the best

hey we all got our opinions, i'm not going to bash anyone's, I was just stating that KF definitely isn't the outright best, nor is anyone until we get some more actions in tournaments and learn more about the game in general when it comes to the characters. personally, a top 10 is hard to make lol, DS, DD, raven, scorpion, batgirl, and etc. all are deadly. The only chars I am waiting to see if they can be legit are lex, bane, lobo, Harley, and joker.

 

[The Gabriel]

"We" don't know this is Superman/BA's game at all, that's a personal opinion. WW is better than Scorpion and possibly Batman as well. GL is a pain in the ass too. And Chris G would not be winning w/GA if he was a crappy char. Superman/Scorpion are cheap, they are not the best chars. There is a difference in cheapness and toolsets

IGAU is so much more balanced than people give it credit for, it's starting to get sadder and sadder.

ChrisG is a fighting game god and plays a character almost no one has experience against at a high level.

Superman is clearly the best character, and it's not because he' cheap, but because he has *all* the toolsets of the game at his disposal, usually in their best forms.

Scorpion is a broken character that hasn't been made known yet but will eventually...too many resets, and j3/air teleport allow him to do things in this game that characters weren't designed to do or combat.

But like I said, the conversations are "boring" if we all just acknowledge that Superman is tops, so people throw out crazy stuff like WW is the best in order to draw out the convo.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

that guy was complaining about batman a few days ago (yet he uses scorpion) and he blew a gasket because i tried to give him pointers.

uh pls stop it now, I was stating that batman had a plenty of tools as well (but of course you have trouble comprehending things). Also scorpion lacks a ground game, so he has his issues too, plus you can stuff his wakeups as well. Also there are ways to blow up teles as well. But hey, you just want to sit and be lazy like a damn couch potato, not my problem.

 

[Duck Nation]

IGAU is so much more balanced than people give it credit for, it's starting to get sadder and sadder.

I think the thing that throws a spanner in the works is because of the bottom half/third of the cast, where you start to see characters who have very serious flaws and matchup issues. The top half of the cast is fine and pretty well balanced all against each other, but the ones who don't color that perception significantly.

 

[chores]

hey we all got our opinions, i'm not going to bash anyone's, I was just stating that KF definitely isn't the outright best, nor is anyone until we get some more actions in tournaments and learn more about the game in general when it comes to the characters. personally, a top 10 is hard to make lol, DS, DD, raven, scorpion, batgirl, and etc. all are deadly. The only chars I am waiting to see if they can be legit are lex, bane, lobo, Harley, and joker.

lex i feel like has the tools if you could tweak his rushdown and make it safer he would be there. the others i dont know much about except jokers teeth setups dont work midscreen which sucks

 

[RWDY Nori]

ChrisG is a fighting game god and plays a character almost no one has experience against at a high level.

Superman is clearly the best character, and it's not because he' cheap, but because he has *all* the toolsets of the game at his disposal, usually in their best forms.

Scorpion is a broken character that hasn't been made known yet but will eventually...too many resets, and j3/air teleport allow him to do things in this game that characters weren't designed to do or combat.

But like I said, the conversations are "boring" if we all just acknowledge that Superman is tops, so people throw out crazy stuff like WW is the best in order to draw out the convo.

In MK9 and every other major FG, when a char was top tier, they were top tier. EVERYBODY had Sagat as the best in SF4 Vanila, Jin in Tekken 4, Akuma is SSFT2. What you're suggesting is that the entire TYM community is SO bored (w/a fresh new game like IGAU) that we won't acknowledge a char who in YOUR opinion is the best? Superman has weaknesses, that's why he's not the best. He can be rushed down and has no panic tools like others have. Several chars give him trouble or go even w/him

-Chris G is a great gamer and it's up to top players to have every char ready to fight against. RIGHT NOW, GA is top 10 based on what he's doing in tournaments. Maybe over time that will change. Right now, you can't argue w/results. The whole "they didn't know the matchup" is a sorry excuse. If you travel around the country for money, you are assumed to be prepared for all the chars.

-Scorpion is not broken. "Broken" is a word thrown around a lot and I don't know why, cause people clearly don't understand it. "Broken" means game breaking, as in shouldn't be in the game and cannot be beaten, etc. Scorpion is not even the best in this game, let alone broken. Glitches are broken. Easy infinites in a game not meant to have them is broken. Scorpion mixing you up cause you aren't paying attention is not broken.

 

[testyourpatience]

uh pls stop it now, I was stating that batman had a plenty of tools as well (but of course you have trouble comprehending things). Also scorpion lacks a ground game, so he has his issues too, plus you can stuff his wakeups as well. Also there are ways to blow up teles as well. But hey, you just want to sit and be lazy like a damn couch potato, not my problem.

i just think it's funny that you're trying to misrepresent your own argument so that it looks like i didn't understand it, yet you just lost your shit at the guy when he was clearly kidding because you had trouble comprehending his post.

i'm not worried about it, i'm just letting the guy know that you tend to do that.

 

[RWDY Nori]

I think the thing that throws a spanner in the works is because of the bottom half/third of the cast, where you start to see characters who have very serious flaws and matchup issues. The top half of the cast is fine and pretty well balanced all against each other, but the ones who don't color that perception significantly.

Believe it or not, even the best chars in the game have a bad MU to either a mid tier char or low. It's very unlikely Bane/Lex/Lobo win Evo, but if they are played right, they will make you earn the win (especially Bane w/his 90%+ resets).

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

i just think it's funny that you're trying to misrepresent your own argument so that it looks like i didn't understand it, yet you just lost your shit at the guy when he was clearly kidding because you had trouble comprehending his post.

i'm not worried about it, i'm just letting the guy know that you tend to do that.

like I said before, who are you? probably just some random person. I'm a player who goes to tournaments to support games, I give knowledge to others when they need help/ even take knowledge from others and talk about things in an intellectual way. You just scream " oh he is broken", sound like a complete fool. I am misinterpreting my own argument? right you sound extra dumb. Just stop talking to me. You are pathetic.

 

[Metzos]

If GL guesses wrong, WW has incredibly insane tools to immediately get in. Aquaman I don't buy either as a bad MU, you're gonna have to sell me a little more on that one as well. I would classify GL as annoying, not a bad MU. She can easily go into SS and just dash her way in and take minimal damage.

And yes, I'm curious as well what @a foxy grandpa thinks. I'm giving him full credit for opening my eyes to this char, I seriously thought she was barely top 10

GL's B13 really helps him against WW when in mid screen. It can be cancelled to mini gun which provides good meter build, excellent chip dmg and one hell of a push back as well and it is also an excellent whiff punishing move. His d1 is +f on block and its really fast as well. Both are meter dependent to get their damage going and GL can build meter much faster than WW as well. I m gonna have to play the MU more against Nivek's WW ( he is at the same lvl as Foxy's WW ) and i ll let you know. As for Aquaman, tbh with you, i mentioned him cause he almost has the same tools as GL. Good poking game, excellent spacing, damage, good AA's, good meter build, 50/50 mix ups and insane range with his normals and his specials. Also his trait helps him a lot. I agree with you though, WW's SS really helps against GL and zoners in general, but it really limits her mobility and that can be used against her when fighting against characters who excell at spacing.

 

[16 Bit]

She hasn't won because, for whatever dumb ass reason, people are slowly seeing her. She'll have a spurt of wins, but as soon as people start to break down her issues, she'll see less time in GFs, though.

I've been playing with top players trying to break down her issues for months and we all still think she is super top. Slips thinks she's the best character in the game and he plays the MU better than anyone.

So far whenever people try to say she's not THAT good and list her issues it's stuff we already know how to blow up and it's often in her favor.

 

[Duck Nation]

Believe it or not, even the best chars in the game have a bad MU to either a mid tier char or low.

Sure, but those same characters also lose a significant number of matches. Shazam being good against Aquaman specifically does not mean he isn't in general a flawed character who has to work way more against a lot of the cast, for example. A handful of even or good matchups are not going to level the field for a lot of the low tier characters.

 

[chores]

GL's B13 really helps him against WW when in mid screen. It can be cancelled to mini gun which provides good meter build, excellent chip dmg and one hell of a push back as well. His d1 is +f on block and its really fast as well. Both are meter dependent to get their damage going and GL can build meter much faster than WW as well. I m gonna have to play the MU more against Nivek's WW ( he is at the same lvl as Foxy's WW ) and i ll let you know. As for Aquaman, tbh with you, i mentioned him cause he almost has the same tools as GL. Good poking game, excellent spacing, damage, good AA's, good meter build, 50/50 mix ups and insane range with his normals and his specials. Also his trait helps him a lot. I agree with you though, WW's SS really helps against GL and zoners in general, but it really limits her mobility and that can be used against her when fighting against characters who excell at spacing.

For either b13 or b12 WW can parry after the b1 and full b113 punish.

WW is not in any way meter dependent. Possibly the least meter dependent character in the game imo.

i agree with the aquaman stuff. when i play a solid aquaman i dont know what to do if he has trait available

 

[RWDY Nori]

Sure, but those same characters also lose a significant number of matches. Shazam being good against Aquaman specifically does not mean he isn't in general a flawed character who has to work way more against a lot of the cast, for example. A handful of even or good matchups are not going to level the field for a lot of the low tier characters.

Very true. I think NRS did a very good job of balancing, but naturally people cannot expect (not saying this is you) every char to be top tier and perfectly balanced. And me coming from a 3D background mostly (Soul calibur and tekken), this game's balance is pretty awesome

 

[Metzos]

For either b13 or b12 WW can parry after the b1 and full b113 punish.

WW is not in any way meter dependent. Possibly the least meter dependent character in the game imo.

i agree with the aquaman stuff. when i play a solid aquaman i dont know what to do if he has trait available

What if GL does B1 mini gun ?

 

[RWDY Nori]

I've been playing with top players trying to break down her issues for months and we all still think she is super top. Slips thinks she's the best character in the game and he plays the MU better than anyone.

So far whenever people try to say she's not THAT good and list her issues it's stuff we already know how to blow up and it's often in her favor.

Can you or Slips explain why? I personally think WW is a better char w/no bad MU, would love a detailed explanation from somebody who really knows the char (Frost)

 

[RWDY Nori]

What if GL does B1 mini gun ?

If you limit GL to do nothing but B1 mini gun you've already won the match

 

[chores]

What if GL does B1 mini gun ?

afaik b1 minigun is safe which is nice and does build meter but what im saying is b12 or b13 as a combo starter or a 50/50 whatever is not as useful vs ww because she can parry and punish. most of the cast doesnt have that option

 

[REDRUM]

She is my main. And there are characters who hit far higher numbers that don't nearly as much skill as ww. Ww is great , I have only played her and haven't even experimented with anyone else. But you gotta work for her. Character like GL , you can learn a few lanterns might combos and be on your way to beating high level players. WW makes you work for your rewards.

She's so solid I dont see any faults at all (unless you consider her projectiles which oly travel 3/4's of the screen rather than full screen)

I whole-heaterdly believe shes top 5

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

I've been playing with top players trying to break down her issues for months and we all still think she is super top. Slips thinks she's the best character in the game and he plays the MU better than anyone.

So far whenever people try to say she's not THAT good and list her issues it's stuff we already know how to blow up and it's often in her favor.

man just go to CEO and wreck shop, then ppl will be like "damn they were right about frost" haha.