If you time the j2 late enough and they don't move it crosses up, I wouldn't just say it if I didn't use it myself. Sometimes people assume it'll cross up and they block the other way
If they block back it won't crossup. Which is what they'll do as soon as they see you jump.
I don't really use j2 at all. j3 is far superior. Also, j3 on hit is confirmable into df2(MB) for vortex. The problem with j3, throw is that her grab range is so shit it sometimes whiffs after the pushback.
Yeah j3 is good, but I use j2 until someone makes me stop
Australia is limited in the player pool so they all know what to do against BG. I can't gimmick them at all
At least you have players and/or a scene -_-Australia is limited in the player pool so they all know what to do against BG. I can't gimmick them at all
True. My comment was mainly about using j2 in vortex after b2d3. If I play a BG who does that, I'm just gonna pushblock and say thank you for my free out.
Oh I know you were talking about that but I was talking just in general. Pretty much every batgirl I run into online does j2 b1 or j2 b2 all day. So just trying to help others
This is a very tight combo, try doing it but omitting the first ji2 (i.e. b2u3, f23) hold forward after the b2u3 and delay the f23 so that df2 connects.
but I dont have any trouble landing ji2 or connecting df2 , I just cant land bola after d2 in this combo
The ji2 increases gravity scaling making the d2~bf1 very hard to connect.
Throw a 21 in before the d2 anyway just for swag
I'm looking forward to seeing what Chris G does with her and how he handles her bad MUs.
Cool, more setups are never a bad thing, and it is nice that 12b2 ends with an overhead so you can change it up and do 12b3 for another mixup into a setup. Maybe good in the Aquaman MU also? I usually just go for max damage in that MU instead of setups atm.
Yeah pretty much thinking the same thing. I want to see if he uses any of her tools that I don't use that much.
The only "tool" of hers I don't use much is db32. I'm convinced it was invented to troll BG players.
Yeah it is terrible. I tried to convince myself I could use this as a good to avoid charging moves...by doing the evade and keeping yourself in the air a while...but that is just a bill because the recovery is so bad there is no chance to get anything off it.
What are you guys talking about?! It's her best tool! I'm surprised people don't complain about it and cry for nerfs, it's super OP!
I do something similar with this after b2d3 at the end of a vortex combo, after the b2d3 I'll either do a jump-in attack which doesn't crossup and gives me a free combo or offensive option (which works probably once on some opponents because most of the time they'll assume the only reason I have to jump after a combo that leaves them near is for a crossup so they'll block the other way) or an empty jump to mess with them and keep them defensive rather than offensive and use one of my options from there (ie b1, b2, throw, etc)
I think it's a nice little way to get your offense going in general. It's easier to hit them with 12b3 or 12b2 than b1/b2 in neutral because it jails off j2 and it's much faster. After that, you could use this to cross them up and start the usual vortex. It is good against Aquaman due to his poor wake ups and he can't trait out so it's almost a mini vortex on him. However, some characters can blow this up with wake ups. I haven't done a ton of testing but I believe a meaty j3 could stuff some of those wake ups.
