No, I mean the fact you have to block it backwards because it truly crosses you up and if you delay it for less than half a second it won't crossup. You can not tell which way you're going to get hit from, there is no distinct animation, only the moment which the DD player presses the button.
Except just holding down and not hitting a button. Covers both sides
You either wake up or not, you can't do both. If you're not waking up because this setup kills wakeups then you're crouching against doomsday and not pressing a button.
But that is neither here nor there. Yes it's a bad idea to crouch Doomsday, but that doesn't change that MB Upward Venom is not a crossup. A body splash accomplishes this goal much better as a crossup and Earth Shake into dash accomplishes the wakeup coming in from the wrong side.
The only thing that reverses crossups with d1 shake or naked shake, nothing else, are you going to give up a full combo just for that?
With Earth Shake into dash with them crossing up, you're at free reign to do whatever you want to them. Like, anything. No meter burning required. If Body Splash doesn't actually hit them, it still leaves them in blockstun for you. If they block MB Up Venom, they punish you.
MB upward venom does crossup, is not vulnerable to wakeups, doesnt matter that it telegraphs due to wakeup window. i dont think youve understood the setups
A crossup mixup in my mind is a move that makes the opponent choose left or right. This move does not. The telegraphing makes them know that they can't wakeup. It doesn't matter if it's invulnerable to wakeups, it's vulnerable to not waking up.
you mean start up?
That makes sense. It doesn't feel like it's -12 though. I can definitely swing right around the same time they can. Maybe it has long block stun or something?
it could vary between character but so far i've been able to punish everyone thats done a background bounce to me on block. I tested Sinestro's in the first few days of the game's release and remember it being around -12
You're a god damn genius.
Well, dont expect to be something huge, but still you can do some extra damage after a MB Venom, even perhaps a standing 3 to MB ES for further damage.
I messed with it a little bit yesterday, you can get a d1 es for sure. Which starts the corner reverse game. You might be able to get 123, but I've been ass with the timing so far. I'll mess with it more later and let you know if I find anything.
If you jump in your opp will just backdash or dash underneath you, normal jumps in this game are 4of or so, floaty ones even more, you shouldnt be jumping around with doomsday
it works only after es ?
Works mid screen after a d 3 and mb AS. For the mid screen variants to work, you have to do a vertical jump after the dash.
yeah I know this but im thinking, it always cross them up ? or you can do this but make it regular splash ?
