Question - Cyrax How do you nerf this character

[Mrfinesse28]

Lets be honest we all knew that cyrax would be hell to play against just from his history. NRS has to be careful with the balance changes they make to a character. The last thing you would want is to completely destroy the meta of a character because he has hard to blockables. I mean lets be honest cyrax was built before with unblockable bombs in previous mk games so that was even crazier. I think taking away his vortex wouldnt make sense being that alot of characters have them. Ermac,scorp,raiden,sub,letherface,sonya,etc. regardless of what u do u cant escape the fact that some characters are fucked up on mk. What to you guys think should be the change for rax. It has to make since cause one major change completely changes the way the character is played or sometimes it turns them to not being played at all.

 

[roosTakk]

Sense, not 'since'.

Nice try NRS

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Take away his hard to blockable set-ups and give him better armor to compensate, he would still have a vortex...

 

[I GOT HANDS]

Just change the way the psuedo-unblockables work, make the minimum block link window like 5 frames (and make it apply to throws too)


Character will still have insane meterless damage, meterless high damage vortex, and a bunch of set-ups and the very useable Triborg neutral. Also, 5 frame links are by no means easy to block either, especially since he has mix-ups on everything. Character will still be great. Even @ESG Jagged agrees that this is a good change, so if I can agree on it as one of this forum's biggest haters of 1 frame block links and he can agree on it as this forums biggest Cyrax downplayer, I'm pretty sure this is the answer

 

[Invincible Salads]

vortex? how does his vortex work exactly?

also, you nerf him by disabling low bombs while the other player is trapped in a net. air bombs only until either the net expires or you continue your combo.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

vortex? how does his vortex work exactly?

also, you nerf him by disabling low bombs while the other player is trapped in a net. air bombs only until either the net expires or you continue your combo.

think its string into net bomb then s3 youre +-20 or so then you wax dat ass and repeat

 

[Invincible Salads]

think its string into net bomb then s3 youre +-20 or so then you wax dat ass and repeat

ah, alright.

 

[kappie.wp]

Make low bomb hit mid

RIP Cyrax

 

[SaSSolino]

I would make his bombs unbloackables, but not usable in combo after a net.

 

[honeybooboo]

The most reasonable one ive heard that somebody mentioned was no low bomb while opponent is in net

 

[John the Savage]

If you shoot a low bomb while they are in net it will hit as a mid.

That or when they fall out of a net they are knocked down not left standing.

I would prefer the low bomb hitting mid if shot out while they are in net but either of these would leave everything he has but stop the db3, b2 out of net hardtoblockable.

 

[Wigy]

Nerfs:

Air net drops them to the floor.

4-5 frame buffer on lowoverheads to come out as a mid.

Buffs:

F2 ACTUALLY hits mid

New d1/d3 with some actual range.

Ex teleport has armour on reversal and better active frames.

B2 plus on block so it has some use in neutral.

 

[tafka Djinn]

also, you nerf him by disabling low bombs while the other player is trapped in a net. air bombs only until either the net expires or you continue your combo.

This is brilliant. It leaves him with the ability to apply some post-net pressure, removes the HTB looping, and would even work against throw combos by ducking on read.

 

[xxFalcon Loverxx]

I would make his bombs unbloackables, but not usable in combo after a net.

No.

No, no no no.No



Why you ask?Because cyrax unblockable bombs not only would they be broken, but if they want be usable after net is not a good change, his maximum damage midscreen meterless would be 23% XD

 

[JDM]

Take away his ability to throw, bombs are highs (even the low ones) and net suspension lasts for 1/2 the time


there we go perfectly balanced by nrs standards and I'm sure the community will be happy until they all get together to choose their next nerf target. Which would take less than a week.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

I'd rather deal with cyrax than alien right now.

From what I'm understanding all of cyraxs set ups will be overhead then low, otherwise he won't get the combo.

The way I see it. The way NRS wants the game to be, there's gonna be hard to block shit. There JUST IS and there's no way around it aside from..... Playing another game.

You remove some of these set ups from cyrax and you kill what NRS wants the character to be about.

I don't necessarily agree with it... But someone's gonna be doing it and I personally think cyrax looks dope af. So I'd rather get bodied by him than some pale demonic overlord lol

 

[WakeUp DP]

You don't. He needs it.

Was it you that made the "how do you nerf Lao" thread?

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Or just give Kitana overhead fans that she can place on the screen and have like 400 active frames so she can have hard to blockables. Idk... <3

 

[WakeUp DP]

I'd rather deal with cyrax than alien right now.

From what I'm understanding all of cyraxs set ups will be overhead then low, otherwise he won't get the combo.

The way I see it. The way NRS wants the game to be, there's gonna be hard to block shit. There JUST IS and there's no way around it aside from..... Playing another game.

You remove some of these set ups from cyrax and you kill what NRS wants the character to be about.

I don't necessarily agree with it... But someone's gonna be doing it and I personally think cyrax looks dope af. So I'd rather get bodied by him than some pale demonic overlord lol

Right. Idk the Alien MU but I felt like I was put in a block infinite the other day lol.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

Also... If u think this shits hard to block you haven't played marvel or guilty gear at a high level.

 

[JDM]

I'd rather deal with cyrax than alien right now.

From what I'm understanding all of cyraxs set ups will be overhead then low, otherwise he won't get the combo.

The way I see it. The way NRS wants the game to be, there's gonna be hard to block shit. There JUST IS and there's no way around it aside from..... Playing another game.

You remove some of these set ups from cyrax and you kill what NRS wants the character to be about.

I don't necessarily agree with it... But someone's gonna be doing it and I personally think cyrax looks dope af. So I'd rather get bodied by him than some pale demonic overlord lol

You can make it low overhead with b2 .

And yeah Alien is worse. I actually switched from Cyrax to Alien right now. Tanya 2.0 with full screen unreactable 50/50s lololol

Meanwhile people on here complaining about Cyrax Cx

 

[WakeUp DP]

Or just give Kitana overhead fans that she can place on the screen and have like 400 active frames so she can have hard to blockables. Idk... <3

Give her that and remove the armor on DP and nake her fans punishable on block.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

Give her that and remove the armor on DP and nake her fans punishable on block.

No.

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

You can make it low overhead with b2 .

And yeah Alien is worse. I actually switched from Cyrax to Alien right now. Tanya 2.0 with full screen unreactable 50/50s lololol

Meanwhile people on here complaining about Cyrax Cx

Wanna play? Lol

 

[WakeUp DP]

Also... If u think this shits hard to block you haven't played marvel or guilty gear at a high level.

That goes without saying, why do you think the Summoner witch hunt happened? lol