Wow, this is huge ! So you see only once a char being top 8 in your life and you're done with the balance and stuffs ? History proves us that more you see a char being top 8 (with different players I would say), and more there is chance that this same char is stronger than the other.
When he plays which character man? If you think AA's are fine in this game, WITH ALL CHARACTERS, then i m afraid its you who are playing the game wrong.
damn! I really started a war! anyway it is true that he wants to nerf rushdown, and he's right: mkx's rushdown is WAY too strong. I mean cmon! sonya has a 50/50 that leands into a 50/50 (33/66 if you count the grab) and if you guess right you get less than 20 frames to punish? (making it impossible to punish online and even offline for some chars) are you joking? her divekick is the same on block and has no whiff frames (or close to it) and she isn't even considered top tier.
20 frames is more than enough to punish something. You cant bring online into this. The problem i have is dave doesnt care what gets ruined in the game as long as he gets the zoning character he wants
its not just what dave wants its what all us who prefered zoning type of game want as well. most of the stuff dave said on here about zoning is legit.
Dont get me wrong I would love to see more zoning as well. The problem is that it is clear that dave doesnt really care what happens to all other characters as long as zoning gets better and I dont think that is a wild assumption. Anyway I am done with this thread and dont want to participate in this stuff anymore.
I also said that some chars can't punish her offline either, read it all. and if a move is made to be punished, why not add a few bazillion frames on block? you wanted it punished anyway. oh wait, MKX has to be fast and good looking. (for real, I can't find no other reason)
aw cmon I was writing, not fair!
Okay one last post because uou were already typing away
. If some characters really can't punish something then it is a problem yeh. But what characters cant punish something that is -20? Also rushdown in this game is fine almost all strings are negative on block. It is the mixup characters that dave thinks are the strongest and I agree, but I talked to him about this anf about the pushblock thing and said it will mainly affect rushdown and not mixups and all he said was oh well lol more defensive options is always better.
too kind.Okay one last post because uou were already typing away
it is true, mixups chars are insanely good. I agree that more defensive options is something that could help, perhaps some invulnerability frames on wakeups like mk9? and also more blockframes to most special (also whiff frames to some) might not be that bad of an idea. and if you really want to make me exited, more blockframes (no need for unsafety, but something more of -3 might be appreciated) and no more special cancels to those annoying strings that his low to overhead or overhead to low like sonya's b14 or erron's f13. oh god, I get all horny just thinking about it.
I don't understand what this means. How will it not affect mixups if it affects rushdown? I'm going to assume your definition of mixups is 50/50s because that's the only way I think that statement makes sense. If that's the case and 1 bar breaker doesn't affect 50/50s then what's the point? If the whole argument for 1 bar breakers is to tone down 50/50 characters (which it won't like I've been saying since this argument came up) this won't hurt anyone but characters that don't have a strong 50/50 game.
Thing is most people have stated that they'd adjust the way the block breaker works as well. It shouldn't knock down it should push back, think like mvc3, or skullgirls push block style. However if this is really the case, that it would be too powerful, which I don't think it will. What type of change should be implemented to stop the massive amounts of chip from being unleashed upon certain characters, that easily lead into throws.
How is smart blocking punished though? In my experience smart blocking usually leads to good things.
The full bar of stamina is important for breakers. I mentioned my reasoning already in a recent post. Offense will actually gain a significant boost if breakers cost any less.
Well you are punished by losing 10-30% in chip with a possibility of a throw being stacked on, if on the lower end of the chip being the 10% which is the equivalent to eating a DF1 gunshot from Marksmen Erron Black. While the opponent gains a good chunk of meter.
I agree with you. Depends on the character though. Prime examples are Cassie and TG Raiden. If breakers cost one bar of stamina then those two characters, among others ofc, say something like "Ok so? I ll just use my remaining stamina to get on your face and continue my pressure". Tbh with you zoners benefit better with the current breaker engine.
I care about other characters because any fighting game that only revolves around one gameplay style is boring. I would like to see more variety in Mortal Kombat X. In spite of the horrendous balance and abundant bugs and glitches, Mortal Kombat 9 remained interesting to play and watch for two years because of its variety.
But how would push block hurt these characters if they have the meter building advantage? They'll still be just as good if not better because now they can keep you off of them as well.
Simple, if I can block breaker these characters they can no longer gain massive amounts of meter. And who needs to block breaker Kitana for example? You won't need to be wasting a bar of meter, and a bar of stamina to push them back it's pointless. Raiden is the only one who would be a bit infuriating to have this going for him due to his retarded meter gain because of multihitting strikes. But at the very least you could push him back enough to possibly get out of the corner while he is bullying you there after a guess.
