It's just kobu... Pyro and DN aren't brain dead. Fighting pyro and DN are actually more difficult I find simply because the game plan isn't B1 EX rekkas and the same four or five moves over and over. But because they aren't as simple of a plan it's harder to impose especially without a move like the EX rekka. But I believe she will still be disliked due to her still being Tanya but I will respect those who play her much more now that she's been somewhat normalized. She'll still be a great char it's just up to those who play her to revamp her game plan and to not just abandon her because Kobu isn't god tier anymore...It kind of sucks that everyone hates Tanya just because of kobu jutsu..... I get hate online sometimes even though I don't pick kobulol although I do remember one guy told me finally a Tanya player with skill (due to me use Dragon Naginata)
. So now I wonder, will she still be hated as a character? Or will it just be Kobu jutsu that is hated?
Kobu was brain dead because even if you didn't open up your opponent they still just ate chip to death and once it was your turn another b1 and your armor is broke and it's her turn again. A vast majority of the KJ Tanyas I faced on and offline would play exactly the same way and if us playing against her make one mistake it's almost game over. These nerfs will just place her level with the top tier and not in a class of her ownOMG YES! Draginata does require patience but that's why I use it. I think it's one of the few variations in the game that really requires patience and good space control. And the disjointed hitbox/hurt box on staff stance!That comes in handy a lot.
One thing I don't understand is when people say she's brain dead in kobu. What do they mean? I get that a lot of people use b1 out the ass, but how exactly is she brain dead?
No problem! I understand how hard it is to not see if a char you play is brain dead unless you hear it from another player. I know as a Kung Jin main I get a lot of shit for throwing more than my fair share of njps but that's why Tanya throws out b1 so much... It's a good tool in her arsenal but comparable to KJ's njp it leads to way more chip and plus frames in the right hands. Also I didn't see that I replied to you twice on the same topic so sorry about! But if you're on xb1 we should play some sets sometime I can always use more Tanya MU experience
Damn lol but yes I think pyro will be her new dirty variation once she's fleshed outI'd love to but im on ps4
But on that note....Draginata Rules!!!
No, you can use it for damage- oh wait. NRS flicked us over again.
Dude Tanya is still arguably top 5 even with the changes she received. You keep stating she needs a damage buff but for what..? Her chip damage pre patch was second to none and the chip change is universal. She still has insane pressure even if you don't take half their health in chip alone. She was normalized and will still be top tier. What justifications do you have for buffing her damage...?
Yes. The nerfs to Kobu were a lot harder than thought and the pyro buffs are underwhelming.
They nerfed her damage for no reason and what reason was there for her flip kick and drill kick nerf? She never did that much damage anyway. She doesn't have a sharpen tool like Kitana anyway....
How the fuck did you say everything I wanted to say??? Lol.
What does kitana have to do with any of this...? They nerfed her damage because of all the free chip she gets. She does around or near 40% for a bar. Which is on par with the rest of the cast... But she also does much more chip damage and is plus with her rekka pressure... No longer being god tier does not make a need for a damage buff. She still has an armored OH and an armored low wakeup/reversal. Sorry if she doesn't do Quans pre-patch damage and have an armored move that hits twice and blows up almost all armor in the game so she's now only slightly above the majority of the cast. Why don't we bring back her invincible ex teleport (major sarcasm) so she's viable... She will be just fine and will just require more thought to play.
I hardly use Tonya and that is way to much for even me to take in.
. But I'm pretty sure someone's still going to be a badass kobu jutsu master even after all this.
Thank you for saying it. Everyone complains about her normalizations. Like no one saw this coming... Just like every other char that received nerfs, you just have to change the way you play her instead of gripe and whine.I kind of want to take up kobu in this state and see how playable she still is. I think she's fine, you'll just have to work around her problems like we Tanya players always have. We got through the teleport nerf. We got through the the tele-cancel nerf. That pyro nerf....not so much
I wasn't complaining first, I was answering a question asked by someone on the thread. And he's not brain dead in the slightest. Remind me how he happens to be brain dead? I'd love to hear> plays Kung Jin
> Complains about braindead
