Question - Sub-Zero Got the game early, q&a about Subzero moveset etc(no story spoilers)

[The Farmer]

Any info on the interactbles would be great, what links, startups etc

 

[villainous monk]

I know its particularly Day One or so but does Sub play or feel a bit faster or more mobile compared to a Scorpion or Kitana? Dear God I hope so.

 

[ProudDisciple]

Can Erron Black take damage from his own spikes? Can he combo of off his overhead? Is his command throw blockable?
Thank u!

 

[GreatOldOne]

Just wanted to say that you guys are awesome for checking all of this for everyone, thank you so much

 

[Qwark28]

ferra troll

f dash slightly worse than banes, extremely good

piss poor backdash, its almost exactly like SF4 oni backdash

standing 4 even is cammy's st mk " look at my ass"

F2 is a low scoop that changes sides

long range d1, bows down for the chick to stab you

 

[Qwark28]

Can Erron Black take damage from his own spikes? Can he combo of off his overhead? Is his command throw blockable?
Thank u!

spikes force runners to stop

its part of a string so im sure he can

no

 

[Qwark28]

I know its particularly Day One or so but does Sub play or feel a bit faster or more mobile compared to a Scorpion or Kitana? Dear God I hope so.

sub has good dashes, amazing slide, great f42

Any info on the interactbles would be great, what links, startups etc

feels slightly faster than injustice but that was just one thing i happened to throw by accident, there are no long ass hurl this thing at you animations e.g atlantis glass ball

 

[Brutal Chimney]

Can you check if the command grabs for Commando Kano are blockable?

I know I asked about subs already, but the theory is either only grab special variants are unblockable or they are all blockable. I need info on both types to test the theory

 

[RoboCop]

@Qwark28 Hey, thanks a ton for answering these questions! I've got a few more Takeda questions if you don't mind.

1) Does it look like he has any viable wakeups?

2) Does it look like he has any decent mind games with teleport-cancels or is the start-up too slow?

3) Do the kunai's track, or do they go a set distance?

4) Does his air-teleport come out at a set height, or at the height of his jump? Can he instant-air teleport (and is there a reason he would want to)? Is tge whiff recover on air-teleport low enough to use it as a pressure tool?

 

[Qwark28]

ferra is a rechargable projectile that hits low and reaches fullscreen, you must wait until she runs back to you again

she can be throw low like a slide, overhead like garuda spikeball/blanka rainbow ball

 

[Qwark28]

@Qwark28 Hey, thanks a ton for answering these questions! I've got a few more Takeda questions if you don't mind.

1) Does it look like he has any viable wakeups?

2) Does it look like he has any decent mind games with teleport-cancels or is the start-up too slow?

3) Do the kunai's track, or do they go a set distance?

4) Does his air-teleport come out at a set height, or at the height of his jump? Can he instant-air teleport (and is there a reason he would want to)? Is tge whiff recover on air-teleport low enough to use it as a pressure tool?

set distance

didnt try air, didnt try wakeup but doesnt look like it

he can delay t port so im sure he has good shit

Can you check if the command grabs for Commando Kano are blockable?

I know I asked about subs already, but the theory is either only grab special variants are unblockable or they are all blockable. I need info on both types to test the theory

ex grabs are unblockable i believe, will test

 

[AssassiN]

Oh man, sounds like I should main Takeda instead of Liu.

 

[REYTHEGREAT]

Any info on raiden? thanks in advnace

 

[Qwark28]

ferra torr has 8f s1 which is slow

6f d3 fastest ive seen among all chars so fun, -1 on block + 14 on hit and +13 cancel adv, his pokes look very good compared to most

f3 is -2 overhead 14f startup, deceivingly safe on whiff

has a faster bane charge with a shorter warning where he takes tora off his shoulder to tackle you, ex has toraa/ferra/gollum whatever stabbing you

 

[Qwark28]

Oh man, sounds like I should main Takeda instead of Liu.

takeda looks SUPER good

 

[rubmytaco]

How about dat netcode doe?

 

[Wetdoba]

ferra troll

f dash slightly worse than banes, extremely good

piss poor backdash, its almost exactly like SF4 oni backdash

standing 4 even is cammy's st mk " look at my ass"

F2 is a low scoop that changes sides

long range d1, bows down for the chick to stab you

What is the frame data on the the d1? Just start up, block adv and hit adv

 

[Qwark28]

ferra torr strings are much safer than most of cast, tons of overheads, 1 low

 

[Montanx]

As an overall, would you say the combos, strings, cancels etc are easier/harder/same as mk9 as far as execution? Sometimes when I see strings they appear more jerky and quick and less natural looking than mk9. Scorpions 111 for example is super smooth in mk9 but his 11? strings in mkx look a tad off to me for some reason. Maybe im making stuff up.

 

[Qwark28]

What is the frame data on the the d1? Just start up, block adv and hit adv

9/0/19/19 cancel

 

[Qwark28]

As an overall, would you say the combos, strings, cancels etc are easier/harder/same as mk9 as far as execution? Sometimes when I see strings they appear more jerky and quick and less natural looking than mk9. Scorpions 111 for example is super smooth in mk9 but his 11? strings in mkx look a tad off to me for some reason. Maybe im making stuff up.

super easy, no execution issues

 

[GreatOldOne]

Oh man, sounds like I should main Takeda instead of Liu.

This really makes me wonder as well which one is better. But no1 tested LK yet so we'll see ^^

 

[Qwark28]

CO-KANO

choke, even ex ,is blockable
block animation possibly the best thing i have ever seen, he legit looks like his fist'd go right through your neck if you didnt block

rib strike throw is always unblockable, ex does more dmg

dash/backdash an exact copy of flash but even better

upball extremely bad on whiff

D3 - 7START -2 BLK
D1 - 8 START -8 BLK 25 HIT
D4 - 7 START -6F BLK +18 HIT

 

[Qwark28]

not even a page full of strings

very surprisingly, while other chars have at the most 1 string at 0 on block, he has like 5 and only 1 out of his approx 8-9 strings is punishable at -15, 2 of them are -7

 

[STB Sgt Reed]

Ex hammer can be used inside a combo. For example most damaging combo that i have found so far is: jump in 2,f3,3,ex hammer(it pops up),nj1,f4,2,1+3 12 hit combo 36% damage 1 meter.

Could you not freeze them somewhere in that to continue the combo??