Got it early, anything you wanna know? (Non story related)

[TrulyAmiracle]

Jade pole vaunt cancel frames (1 def bar cost) (varies a lot depending on when you cancel it, these are fastest possible cancel)
4 PVC: -10 ob, +1 oh
b343 PVC: -14 ob, +3 oh
f34 PVC: -11 ob, +2 oh
12 PVC: -9 ob, knockdown oh
b1 PVC: -19 ob, +3 oh
f2 PVC: -10 ob, +15 oh
21 PVC: -18 ob, +2 oh

Liu Kang Shaolin Stance Cancel frames: (1 def bar cost), can't find a safe cancel sadly.
12 SSC: -22 ob, -9 oh
212 SSC: -26 ob, -8 oh
b2 SSC: -15 ob, -2 oh
f3 SSC: -26 ob, -13 oh
b3 SSC: -26 ob, -5 oh
f43 SSC: -23 ob, -3 oh
b12 SSC: -12 ob, -1 oh

Also dunno if this is known but Liu doesn't actually do the bicycle animation on whiff or block he just does the first hit and lands, -5 ob and its a high.

 

[Circus]

Jade pole vaunt cancel frames (1 def bar cost) (varies a lot depending on when you cancel it, these are fastest possible cancel)
4 PVC: -10 ob, +1 oh
b343 PVC: -14 ob, +3 oh
f34 PVC: -11 ob, +2 oh
12 PVC: -9 ob, knockdown oh
b1 PVC: -19 ob, +3 oh
f2 PVC: -10 ob, +15 oh
21 PVC: -18 ob, +2 oh

Liu Kang Shaolin Stance Cancel frames: (1 def bar cost), can't find a safe cancel sadly.
12 SSC: -22 ob, -9 oh
212 SSC: -26 ob, -8 oh
b2 SSC: -15 ob, -2 oh
f3 SSC: -26 ob, -13 oh
b3 SSC: -26 ob, -5 oh
f43 SSC: -23 ob, -3 oh
b12 SSC: -12 ob, -1 oh

Also dunno if this is known but Liu doesn't actually do the bicycle animation on whiff or block he just does the first hit and lands, -5 ob and its a high.

Could you do Kano's Vege-Mighty buff cancels next (Rotten Scoundrel)? He doesn't have many moves, it shouldn't take too long.

My bad for still bugging lol.

 

[The Janitor]

Can you please do frames for Liu's Shaolin Stance cancels?

 

[Lum@na]

Any frame data for ol Subbie? Poor guy got two weak variations.

 

[Kickbykick]

Lao frames if you can

 

[The Janitor]

Can you please do frames for Liu's Shaolin Stance cancels?

nvm saw them after I posted

 

[Wetdoba]

Oh good shit, didn't know about the preset page in customizing.

For reference

Spoiler

idk Why its gigantic but I put it in a spoiler.

You can choose from presets in the ability menu, the tourney presets have the trophy icon besides them.
Still sucks that I gotta do this for every variation before labbing but it's better than having to go and remember them.



It's headband, nunchuks and hand bracers.



You cannot. Won't allow you to MB the second one.




Comboing into portal is pretty tough in general coz it's slow af, but Noob is blessed with this anti air

Oh and for whoever asked about Jade's staffs, they all just change the green hue and look very same-y. They all green and don't change color with the skins, always green.

Is that 4 hit noob string cancellable?

 

[Invincibeast]

Screenshot of Kabal's string inputs please for anyone that has the game and could

 

[ShepherdOfFire]

Could you do Kano's Vege-Mighty buff cancels next (Rotten Scoundrel)? He doesn't have many moves, it shouldn't take too long.

My bad for still bugging lol.

I'm on it

 

[NothingPersonal]

Ok, back home labbing stuff and I'll finish up everyone's missing frame data coz I'm too deep in at this point lol.

Kabal NDC frames: (ob=on block, oh= on hit)
f22 ndc: +1 ob, +4 oh
f2 ndc: +3 ob, +14 oh
f3 ndc: +8 ob, far launch oh
b1 ndc: +1 ob, +9 oh
b12 ndc: 0 ob, +15 oh
f4 ndc: +1 ob, +3 oh
22 ndc: -8 ob, +13 oh
11 ndc: -8 ob, +5 oh

Doing Liu stance cancels now

Can you also do Jade's PVC's? (poll vault cancels )
EDIT: you did that already, sorry
So Kabal still op with cancels.

 

[ShepherdOfFire]

11 VMC : -15
f1 VMC : -6
f12 VMC : -4
2 VMC : -4
22 VMC : -6
24 VMC : -16
b1 VMC : -12
4 VMC : -7

@Circus

 

[_CHINOCUDEIRO_]

WOW.
Kollector has a variation with a 1f teleport and a 10f command grab. Nice

 

[Whippoorwill]

@ShepherdOfFire I would love to see Sonya's head gear options. Thank you!

 

[Deleted member 5032]

Kabal and Jacqui seem to be the only ones with usable cancels right now, unless I'm missing something.

 

[Vslayer]

Kabal and Jacqui seem to be the only ones with usable cancels right now, unless I'm missing something.

Yeah, Cassie's gun cancels are like -20.

 

[Vslayer]

@ShepherdOfFire I would love to see Sonya's head gear options. Thank you!

I concur. I need to see if she has the classic cap colors.

 

[TheJaquio]

Kabal and Jacqui seem to be the only ones with usable cancels right now, unless I'm missing something.

iirc Kano's vegemighty can be special canceled itself, so you can go for knife and be -7 or chemical burn to put up some distance (though it's super negative right now). Also, vegemighty gives his ball moves armor, so he gains the threat of an armored reversal if his opponent hits buttons on his negative frames.

 

[Lum@na]

Insert Dave Chappelle meme. /apathy

You got any of them.... Sub zero frames?

 

[DarksydeDash]

Cancels in MK11 seem to be more about conditioning. Once your opponent respects the string, then you can go for cancels.

 

[Deleted member 5032]

iirc Kano's vegemighty can be special canceled itself, so you can go for knife and be -7 or chemical burn to put up some distance (though it's super negative right now). Also, vegemighty gives his ball moves armor, so he gains the threat of an armored reversal if his opponent hits buttons on his negative frames.

@Circus I'm sure you were aware, but this is news to me!

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

If the Flawless block mechanic turns out to be important in the meta (which I bet it will) then safe on block cancels might be very good still.

 

[DarksydeDash]

@TrulyAmiracle If didn't already, could you post up Raiden's customization?

 

[Circus]

@Circus I'm sure you were aware, but this is news to me!

Yea, @ShepherdOfFire is trying to find some use for it now. It might be able to extend some swaggy combos.

I'm really hoping that there is at least one setup on block where Chemical Burn isn't punishable by a fast advancing special (or worse).

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

For Liu, if people didn't catch it in the frames vid, his parry KB works on flawless block followups too, and he has gaps before some of his plus strings so if you read that they'll Flawless and u2 after you can parry KB them for 500+ damage.

Would you mind explaining what makes Sub seem strong to you? That’s not the most prevalent opinion I’ve heard.

50/50 city, he felts very MKX-ish so always have to guess if he's on offense. air axe is like Kabal's for troll zoning, iceball being iceball makes zoning trades in his favor.
Idk he's very intuitive and everything works, the variation that removes slide and only has MB iceball can suck my nuts though. 2 specials havin ass variation, thinkin he Ice Guile smh.

Is that 4 hit noob string cancellable?

It's f2212 and no sadly. Wit the air hook special it was his best string but it's hard to utilize it without and that move isnt in either tourney variation...

Sonya hats coz they were actually worth recording

Liu outfits, didnt record the last one for spoiler reasons but if you really wanna see it I can post it separate. It's pretty sick tho

Liu intro/outro

Lao Erron Sub and Scorp frames in a bit, Phone is buggin out..

 

[xenogorgeous]

wow, seriously, Liu Kang in this game is looking identical to Bruce Lee, aesthetically saying