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Future of MKX on PC; MKXL Enhanced Online PC BETA

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Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
trufenix said:
It's a noble suggestion, but NRS could never publish a game as big as MK. Even Dive Kick needed a publisher to be profitable.
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This noble suggestion has been a reality by very few studios, who happened to publish their own games. IMO, it's not right for the publishers to get all the cash and the decisions, while the devs, who created them with their blood and sweat, get to be paid less and say nothing about it. This has been an issue for some time now.

What they lack as devs to publish the game is the industrial mind. They need someone independent in their studio to help publish the game. To know all this shit about the Agora.

I sympathize with the devs doing all this hard work. This is why I stopped being a pirate. I only pirate the consoles, not the games themselves.

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trufenix

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Tanno said:
This noble suggestion has been a reality by very few studios, who happened to publish their own games. IMO, it's not right for the publishers to get all the cash and the decisions, while the devs, who created them with their blood and sweat, get to be paid less and say nothing about it. This has been an issue for some time now.

What they lack as devs to publish the game is the industrial mind. They need someone independent in their studio to help publish the game. To know all this shit about the Agora.

I sympathize with the devs doing all this hard work. This is why I stopped being a pirate. I only pirate the consoles, not the games themselves.

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Again, heroic nonsense. Triple A titles don't get self published. Almost no games do anymore. Wether its steam greenlight, crowdfunding, g2g or gamejolt, someone puts the financial burden on their back. Games like LoL and Minecraft are unicorns.

It's not like publishers do no work. Many are crooked and many games never get off the ground due to their ignorance, but lets not pretend that working towards selfish gain is a unique trait among only publishers. There are plenty of selfish predatory developers and car manufacturers and musicians and even lemonade stand operators.

MK9 (and all subsequent success) would not have happened if not for WB. It was not Ed Boon or some creative genius that made it possible, it was someone with tons of cash making a hard decision to take a risk. It could very well have been that same person who 9 months ago said we are going to wait and see before funding XL for PC.

The good and the evil in game development are two sides of the same coin.
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
trufenix said:
Again, heroic nonsense. Triple A titles don't get self published. Almost no games do anymore. Wether its steam greenlight, crowdfunding, g2g or gamejolt, someone puts the financial burden on their back. Games like LoL and Minecraft are unicorns.

It's not like publishers do no work. Many are crooked and many games never get off the ground due to their ignorance, but lets not pretend that working towards selfish gain is a unique trait among only publishers. There are plenty of selfish predatory developers and car manufacturers and musicians and even lemonade stand operators.

MK9 (and all subsequent success) would not have happened if not for WB. It was not Ed Boon or some creative genius that made it possible, it was someone with tons of cash making a hard decision to take a risk. It could very well have been that same person who 9 months ago said we are going to wait and see before funding XL for PC.

The good and the evil in game development are two sides of the same coin.
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It's true and I agree 100% with you, bro. I'm OK with the good part. I loathe the bad part. If I want, I simply have to ignore them and not buy any ounce from their products.

IMO, the bad part is what made the piracy nowadays. This is always what I tell, "the Truth is somewhere in the middle." Neither from the companies, nor from the pirates. Got it? Every action leads to consequences. What they did about their arrogance and wanting more money resulted to many people leaning to piracy.
 
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trufenix

bye felicia
Tanno said:
It's true and I agree 100% with you, bro. I'm OK with the good part. I loathe the bad part. If I want, I simply have to ignore them and not buy any ounce from their products.

IMO, the bad part is what made the piracy nowadays. This is always what I tell, "the Truth is somewhere in the middle." Neither from the companies, nor from the pirates. Got it? Every action leads to consequences. What they did about their arrogance and wanting more money resulted to many people leaning to piracy.
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I appreciate your sentiment. I am sure you are doing what you think is right, unfortunately piracy (in games at least) only hurts the people you want to support. The fat cats will not lose a dime or an ounce of sleep, they will only take it from someone else.
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Sharp said:
CD Project Red, Valve - just naming a few.
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Those are the very few I mentioned in previous post that made this a reality. The problem are the other companies that are dependent to the big publishers, like WB, Sony, Microsoft. If they had independent marketing and industrial people, they would, of course, say a "fuck off" to the big publishers.

And there's Square Enix, that used to be solely a dev company, but now it's a big dev and publishing company.
 
Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
Sharp said:
CD Project Red, Valve - just naming a few.
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Since im involved with the first one i can tell you that while now we do publish almost everything ourself that wasn't the case until W3. And still we made a deal with WB to distribute the game in NA and Bandai Namco to other regions (thou that backfired badly).
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Immortal said:
Since im involved with the first one i can tell you that while now we do publish almost everything ourselves that wasn't the case until W3. And still we made a deal with WB to distribute the game in NA and Bandai Namco to other regions (though that backfired badly).
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Interesting story. Well, this is what happens when you are depending on others. I heard a similar story about Atlus and Europe.

Let me tell you this. The Witcher happens to be my fav game. I have all the witcher games in PC.
 
Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
Tanno said:
Let me tell you this. The Witcher happens to be my fav game. I have all the witcher games in PC.
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Glad to hear that. Be on the lookout for our next game (Cyberpunk 2077) its gonna be even better. ;)

Anyway coz this is going offtopic, hope that they gonna release the game right after the beta ends or like 1-2 days after.
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Immortal said:
Glad to hear that. Be on the lookout for our next game (Cyberpunk 2077) its gonna be even better. ;)

Anyway coz this is going offtopic, hope that they gonna release the game right after the beta ends or like 1-2 days after.
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Already awaiting for Cyberpunk 2077. :D

I hope so. It'll take a while before finalizing everything. I know about this procedure, so I'm a patient person. What we see in the beta is just draft stuff. I'm waiting for the final product to be released before I tell my opinion about this.
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
@Immortal wait what, you work for CDPR? Are you fking kidding me? My fav company, my fav series of books and games... Dude I can't wait for CP2077, already put over 500hrs in Witcher 3 and like over 1000hrs in the whole trilogy on my GoG account. I also chose GoG over Steam to fully support CDPR.

Also if Geralt would have appeared in MKXL to "solve monster problems" with Mileena, Reptile and others - He would have been my Instant day1-4ever main lol.

I can already imagine 3 variations for Geralt:
1) Swordsman - pure melee gameplay with long reaching normals/mixups.
2) Alchemist - potions and oils for blades (like BO's healing etc or Kotal's totems)
3) Sign master - magic, projectiles

I already know I would use "Hanged Man's" oil against humanoid MK chars and "Elementa" oil against my boi Tremor :D
 
Immortal

Immortal

Blind justice....
Sharp said:
@Immortal wait what, you work for CDPR? Are you fking kidding me? My fav company, my fav series of books and games... Dude I can't wait for CP2077, already put over 500hrs in Witcher 3 and like over 1000hrs in the whole trilogy on my GoG account. I also chose GoG over Steam to fully support CDPR.

Also if Geralt would have appeared in MKXL to "solve monster problems" with Mileena, Reptile and others - He would have been my Instant day1-4ever main lol.

I can already imagine 3 variations for Geralt:
1) Swordsman - pure melee gameplay with long reaching normals/mixups.
2) Alchemist - potions and oils for blades (like BO's healing etc or Kotal's totems)
3) Sign master - magic, projectiles

I already know I would use "Hanged Man's" oil against humanoid MK chars and "Elementa" oil against my boi Tremor :D
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Also great to hear that. As for Geralt in MK maybe some day... but lets not derail this thread any further. I see more updates were made (steamdb -> https://steamdb.info/app/307780/history/).

In stable branch, so yeah, it's coming really soon.
 
Tanno

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Immortal said:
Also great to hear that. As for Geralt in MK maybe some day... but lets not derail this thread any further. I see more updates were made (steamdb -> https://steamdb.info/app/307780/history/).

In stable branch, so yeah, it's coming really soon.
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Hey, it would be a funny part of story for MKX. It would be NRS VS CDP tourny. xD

If time presents itself, I'd love to play against you. :)

BTW, which position are you in CDP?
 
kantboy-2

kantboy-2

Ripper
Sharp said:
@Immortal wait what, you work for CDPR? Are you fking kidding me? My fav company, my fav series of books and games... Dude I can't wait for CP2077, already put over 500hrs in Witcher 3 and like over 1000hrs in the whole trilogy on my GoG account. I also chose GoG over Steam to fully support CDPR.

Also if Geralt would have appeared in MKXL to "solve monster problems" with Mileena, Reptile and others - He would have been my Instant day1-4ever main lol.

I can already imagine 3 variations for Geralt:
1) Swordsman - pure melee gameplay with long reaching normals/mixups.
2) Alchemist - potions and oils for blades (like BO's healing etc or Kotal's totems)
3) Sign master - magic, projectiles

I already know I would use "Hanged Man's" oil against humanoid MK chars and "Elementa" oil against my boi Tremor :D
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Witcher Nerd. ;)
 
Gooberking

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
Immortal said:
Glad to hear that. Be on the lookout for our next game (Cyberpunk 2077) its gonna be even better. ;)

Anyway coz this is going offtopic, hope that they gonna release the game right after the beta ends or like 1-2 days after.
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It needs to be. We've known about it and nothing about it for what feels like an eternity. You've got years now worth of everyone imagining how awesome it will be and what it even is. Good luck living up to that, and we all hope you really do.
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
I wonder if we gonna get to re-download the whole thing again (30+ GB) once the final patch drops out or we just have to update the current free "Beta" version of the game?
 
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