Match-up Discussion Freddy's Most Recent Match Up Numbers

[Pig Of The Hut]

EX cartwheel is absolutely useless vs Freddy in open space. My best bet is to randomly throw it at him in the corner and thats if Im lucky to even have meter. But NMS does seem to make Sonyas dive kick whiff.

U make Sonya sound worthless

 

[M2Dave]

id say 8-2 freddy

Jade has the flash, which is good versus gloves and fingers. The overhead has uses at mid range. For example, it can jump and punish spikes. 8:2 is too much. I think 6:4 or 7:3.

 

[Chongo]

I'd agree with Reps #, but I don't have a clear grasp on that MU. It sure as hell doesn't feel like a 5-5 though.

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

HGTV Soapboxfan do you remember what I said about liking to be right? Go read that freddy cage number up there

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

HGTV Soapboxfan do you remember what I said about liking to be right? Go read that freddy cage number up there

Lol I honestly need more freddy exp to comment. It could be 55 it could be 46... I need to find a way to deal with d1teleport

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

Lol I honestly need more freddy exp to comment. It could be 55 it could be 46... I need to find a way to deal with d1teleport

lunge kick

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

lunge kick

I like the idea but I have no way to test it, fucking stupid ass training mode. Tonight when you come over we will try some stuff.

 

[G4S Claude VonStroke]

The best Freddy i've ever played that FULLY understands how to fight against cage is CD. I've never played M2Dave so i'm not including him in that but i've never seen a freddy player play cage like CD. It takes forever to get it and once you finally do he'll just use meter and get out. It's OBVIOUSLY not an even match up. LBSH :16Bit

 

[YOMI DJT]

reptile vs freddy is 5-5

 

[M2Dave]

reptile vs freddy is 5-5

It is easier for Freddy to keep Reptile away than it is for Reptile to get in.

There is nothing Reptile can do versus consecutive gloves but jump. It takes two jumps to approach Freddy. In other words, I get two chances to AA you with a spike and send you back full screen away.

 

[xSMoKEx]

Nice. Smoke and Kabal are pretty much his worst match-ups then. Each are pretty damn bad for Freddy.

Also, question for m2dave ... On your wake up Tele Away vs. Sonya, does her D4~Ms get a guaranteed check up like against Smoke or are you out of range?

 

[STRYKIE]

Agreed with the Scorp matchup.

6-4 against Jax though? I would've thought his pressure options against his bigger than average hitbox would keep it 5-5, just a curious observation.

 

[M2Dave]

Nice. Smoke and Kabal are pretty much his worst match-ups then. Each are pretty damn bad for Freddy.

Also, question for m2dave ... On your wake up Tele Away vs. Sonya, does her D4~Ms get a guaranteed check up like against Smoke or are you out of range?

Sonya may get a free check, but she has to commit to dashing in advance. Remember that unlike Smoke Freddy also has close spike and EX spike if she tries to be too aggressive on wake up.

I honestly do not mind Kabal all that much. At least you can play your game versus him. The hardest match ups (in order of hardest to easiest) seem to be:

1. Smoke
2. Kung Lao
3. Kabal
4. Raiden
5. Human Sektor

STRYKIE, my experience versus Jax is very limited. CD jr. insists on Freddy winning after fighting his brother.

 

[CD jr]

its very hard to get in on freddy with jax even with armor cause he can duck with hellspikes and when i do get in he can just use ex tele to get away and build that meter back up by zoning me from full screen.

 

[M2Dave]

its very hard to get in on freddy with jax even with armor cause he can duck with hellspikes and when i do get in he can just use ex tele to get away and build that meter back up by zoning me from full screen.

Show your brother this thread and let me know if there are any match ups he disagrees with.

 

[Goldi]

Very generous to Jade. If she could glow the ground claws I could see it. But I think it's more difficult than that for her.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Sonya may get a free check, but she has to commit to dashing in advance. Remember that unlike Smoke Freddy also has close spike and EX spike if she tries to be too aggressive on wake up.

I honestly do not mind Kabal all that much. At least you can play your game versus him. The hardest match ups (in order of hardest to easiest) seem to be:

1. Smoke
2. Kung Lao
3. Kabal
4. Raiden
5. Human Sektor

STRYKIE, my experience versus Jax is very limited. CD jr. insists on Freddy winning after fighting his brother.

I agree

kabal really isnt a huge issue at all for freddy - one of the better characters for kabal

explain human sektor

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

m2dave

i offer these suggestions

Cyber Sub Zero: 6:4

Jade: 8:2

Johnny Cage: 6:4

Kabal: 4:6

Kenshi: 6:4

Quan Chi: 7:3

Rain: 7:3

 

[Qwark28]

I agree

kabal really isnt a huge issue at all for freddy - one of the better characters for kabal

explain human sektor

freddy cant duck human sektrolls misiles with hellspike

 

[YOMI DJT]

It is easier for Freddy to keep Reptile away than it is for Reptile to get in.

There is nothing Reptile can do versus consecutive gloves but jump. It takes two jumps to approach Freddy. In other words, I get two chances to AA you with a spike and send you back full screen away.

with a freddy like yours you won't even punish with full combo. after one claw reptile can dash to get in. rep doesn't have to jump to get in. freddy can't get claw happy. only throw gloves. it's similar to the kenshi mu, kenshi can't get telefurry happy. not easy for freddy to keep rep out. rep can do his ex slowball set up and what can freddy do? throw out armor? 5-5

 

[M2Dave]

after one claw reptile can dash to get in.

Stop playing shitty west coast Freddy players who cannot toss gloves fast enough. Test that again with your brother.

 

[Peckapowa]

You cannot cancel into special moves from d+1 while you are crouching. In order to do d+1 xx teleport, you have to stand first, which leaves you open for EX forceball traps.

Kabal has armor that can be canceled and a 9F normal. Kenshi has d+3, an 8F normal, and a +7 8F EX armor attack that covers half the screen. How are these characters' defensive options even remotely comparable to Freddy's?

u cant d1 if you arent crouching, and you can cancel them, they just have shitty cancel advantage meaning you can poke out if they do more than a 7 frame special(realistically it has to be a slow special), kenshi can counter-poke with d1 shoulder pretty much perfectly safely but theoretically it can be poked out of. kenshis pressure escapes are better but his ex is also more punishable where as ex tele is virtually un punishable, d1 into claw is risky but not to bad if you ask me, if you hit them with d1 into tele they could theoretically flash kick, and should be able to rush in if they have super good reactions or make a read, and if they block they can punish before it gets out.

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

quan freddy 6-4 is fine by me. 7-3 is a bit of a stretch.

m2dave how does freddy beat liu kang 7-3? ive played that MU a couple times and i seem to get raped everytime. Low fireball kills me

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

m2dave
Quan Chi: 7:3

Wow you really think that quan is garbage don't you? ... well he kinda is

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Wow you really think that quan is garbage don't you? ... well he kinda is

absolutely not

I think in this MU he has hella trouble though but Im a quan believer