General/Other - Ferra/Torr Ferra & Torr General Discussion Thread

[Blewdew]

I will mention that B1,2,1 xx DB2 has no gap on Cho at close range if he stand blocks.

That's pretty cool to bad that no one plays bo tho

 

[Legion DC]

Hey, guys! I just pick up Ferra/Torr Lackey. I have a question. How do I do the Torr Charge with armor without spending a bar? How does it work? I seem to pull it off random. How?

 

[Blewdew]

Hey, guys! I just pick up Ferra/Torr Lackey. I have a question. How do I do the Torr Charge with armor without spending a bar? How does it work? I seem to pull it off random. How?

You have armor during the startup Frames only and completly immunity against projectiles

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

its only on the first 4 frames of start up.

 

[Frenzy]

Being a former Brawler Cassie player looking to pick up Vicious, I must ask does the command grab in Vicious only work with one string? Or are there multiple strings that I may use?

 

[Wetdoba]

Being a former Brawler Cassie player looking to pick up Vicious, I must ask does the command grab in Vicious only work with one string? Or are there multiple strings that I may use?

Being a former Brawler Cassie player looking to pick up Vicious, I must ask does the command grab in Vicious only work with one string? Or are there multiple strings that I may use?

They dont have anything like Cassies 212 or whatever it is where every hit of the string is a tick throw. Only tick throws are D3 and D1 in all stances and in Vicious only S1 and F3

 

[Frenzy]

I see. Well it's not as good as 212 but I'll take it.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

Jump-in Kick also ticks on both hit and block.

You can ex Command Grab on hit too. Pretty sure that goes for all command grabs in the game now.

 

[Wetdoba]

Jump-in Kick also ticks on both hit and block.

You can ex Command Grab on hit too. Pretty sure that goes for all command grabs in the game now.

The EX command grab stuff doesnt really help though because EX grab doesnt work with F3 on block (since it is faster) and wont combo off the pokes on hit anyway since pokes dont combo

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

The EX command grab stuff doesnt really help though because EX grab doesnt work with F3 on block (since it is faster) and wont combo off the pokes on hit anyway since pokes dont combo

Yeah I know. But B1,2,1 ex Command Grab and such work fine. Anything you can hit confirm. Only reason to ever use it is if you need unbreakable damage for the win.

 

[Wetdoba]

Yeah I know. But B1,2,1 ex Command Grab and such work fine. Anything you can hit confirm. Only reason to ever use it is if you need unbreakable damage for the win.

Thats true I was just saying we dont really have any scenarios where we can tick throw with an EX grab and have it work on hit or block, besides S1 in Viciois i think.

EX grab can be confirmed off B121 for unbreakable damage (40% in level 3 Ruthless) but in Vicious you might as well confirm into EX boss toss for unbreakable damage since it does more damage and the initial hit of Ferra making contact with them isnt breakable either

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

It's a real shame how cool the command grab looks but is actually pretty useless.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

I see. Well it's not as good as 212 but I'll take it.

If you're leaning towards to tick throw kinda pressure lackey really I the way to go.

 

[Trauma_and_Pain]

I mean, if you really want to abuse tick throws, I think Jason is the clear winner.

 

[Frenzy]

I don't want to just abuse tick throws. I have a moral code to uphold. I want abuse safe 50/50s AND tick throws.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Lol, you should Check the footage I just uploaded to my channel, Kamikaze Highlander. Pretty much all I did was b121 on hit into a 50/50.

 

[Blewdew]

B1 Tick throw works as well in vicious

 

[Wetdoba]

I don't want to just abuse tick throws. I have a moral code to uphold. I want abuse safe 50/50s AND tick throws.

Dont forget to abuse B12 stagger and close overhead toss too

 

[Blewdew]

Dont forget to abuse B12 stagger and close overhead toss too

More FT Mains need to know this. B12 is one of the best staggers in the game imo and I abuse it like fucking hell

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

More FT Mains need to know this. B12 is one of the best staggers in the game imo and I abuse it like fucking hell

Yuuupp. Lackey really taught me the value of b12. Some people respect it so much you can get a jump in.

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

How long does it recover?? It may well be the best 0 on block stagger depending on the recovery. With an 11 frame command grab and a 6f d1, it could well be top 3.

I want to say it's less than 12 frames.

 

[Blewdew]

Yuuupp. Lackey really taught me the value of b12. Some people respect it so much you can get a jump in.

Yes. What I like to do if I know they respect too much is to go for d1xx cmd grab in lackey or go for the 50/50 in ruthless

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Yes. What I like to do if I know they respect too much is to go for d1xx cmd grab in lackey or go for the 50/50 in ruthless

Yes!! The 50/50 in vicious is unreal. If you haven't seen it yet I've got some short clips on my channel from a set with some good examples.

 

[Blewdew]

Yes!! The 50/50 in vicious is unreal. If you haven't seen it yet I've got some short clips on my channel from a set with some good examples.

Aren't the 50/50 in ruthless basically the same?

 

[Kamikaze_Highlander]

Yea, but if you aren't png cancelling you're not really doing it right imo. Every touch in ruthless should go for damage or a 3 stack png set up into pressure or baiting