I might pick up Sub-Zero again, and I can't just pussy out behind ice clones anymore so I thought it'd be best to get all the info I can. Thanks.
To see whether or not they'll ever block low without risking eating a combo.
You can see how they block after B121. Do 212~Clone, notice if they block high or not. If they block high, next time lead with D4, 212~Clone. They will eventually block low.
except you keep giving out 5% chip and 26% of a bar every damn time you wanna condition your opponent, d4 after b121 is stupid because noone with over 75 IQ would ever purposefully waste all that advantage, its pretty damn obvious what youre trying to do and "eventually" isnt good enough when the risk/reward for the mixup is total shit and you end up wasting guaranteed damage and meter that might as well be your hp.
The real question here is why would you want to? F4 is a move you only use on a read/guess/gamble. Its not a block string. You cant hitconfirm it. If your read is that they are gonna block it then just do 2,1,2/2,1,4/2,2,4>ice clone. Those will all build you more meter anyway. The only time your gonna use F4 is if your read is that they wont block it. Since you cant hitconfirm it anyway just pull the freaking trigger and F4>ice blast.
and thats not even mentioning that youre reminding them you got an overhead and that youre o bviously checking them for a future combo.
Yea F4 is that move you want your opponent to forget you even have until its to late. Doing an F4 into ice clone(which is pointless since you cant hit confirm it. What if F4 hits and you ice cloned? Dont you feel dumb now lol) only reminds them you have an overhead to look out for.
Umm... if you go straight into 212 clone after a b121... you're not getting anything that you aren't getting with D4 212 clone after B121. B/c D4 will give you enough advantage to do 212 clone anyway. In fact, you get that little damage extra that d4 takes.
Unless they block it, or even get hit with it when they are crouching. Why not just take the guaranteed setup?
224 equals 212/214, so whats your point?
except losing all your guaranteed advantage and being left open to an armoured move/raiden teleport after d4 even after it hits?
I still like to do f4 clone. I rarely throw it out and I rarely throw out f4 ice ball. Maybe 1 or times in a few sets. I like to open with it if I think my opponent will block low right at the start though. Ill condition them to block low by doing a slide and if they get hit they like to block low at the start of the next match sooooo boot to the fucking face.
That's if they are expecting it, what if they aren't? You get your chip, your clone and everything... plus extra couple % of damage.
Theres lots of reasons why not. But its cool, to each his own.
212 can be armoured through or interrupted with full combo224 equals 212/214, so whats your point?
D4 is plus 8 sub, so you can start pressure. But as you can see i wrote a big "IF" (i want to space..).
Also read knoterrors post above mine and chill with the fuxxs