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Marlow

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For one, critics being depraved doesn't surprise me, the movie industry has sheltered pedophiles and other sexual abusers for decades. Netflix was outright asked if they support pedophilia, in a simple yes or no format, and they didn't even give a straight answer. They said that they can't really comment on it and respect other cultures. They didn't even give a straight up no that pedophilia is wrong, how fucked do you have to be to not be able to acknowledge that?
Netflix messed up, sure. I'm just saying we should wait until we actually know what the movie is really about before being outraged about it. To me right now it sounds like lot of people are simply reacting to it based on other people's twitter outrage and a misleading description and poster.

To me this makes about as much sense as people being outraged at that Joker movie without ever seeing it.
 

Dankster Morgan

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Netflix messed up, sure. I'm just saying we should wait until we actually know what the movie is really about before being outraged about it. To me right now it sounds like lot of people are simply reacting to it based on other people's twitter outrage and a misleading description and poster.

To me this makes about as much sense as people being outraged at that Joker movie without ever seeing it.
No, Netflix's reaction and refusal to outright condemn pedophilia is what's worth being angry about. The movie is now irrelevant because of how terrible Netflix is handling this, acting like the sexualization of children is okay dependent on culture. How hard would it have been for them to say that pedophilia is wrong? Who is misleading people? The people who made the movie surely made their own description and poster right?

With Joker, people were blowing up about the movie for being an incel movie or something, or "weaponizing mediocre white men", my favorite headline (bunch of (soap bars in my mouth))..... Todd Philips, Joaquin Phoenix, or WB didn't come up and say that they couldn't condemn domestic terrorism as a matter of perspective. Most of those pussies criticizing Joker have probably never experienced violence, but anyone should be able to say that a movie about an 11 year old twerking is fucked. Not the same thing at all.
 

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Nice to see the same undercover games being played by people in here.


Anywho, that French movie just has very horrid undertones in it anyway on top of the weird sexualizing of too young girls/children.

The movie's depiction of her Muslim parents as if they're trying to hold back progress when I would assume most parents wouldn't want their 11-12(whatever her age is) girls or boys dancing sexually and provocatively for an audience regardless of race or religion. She's going to school in a shirt that covers next to nothing cause it looks like a school which is odd? The trailer shows the mother as some angry person and I've seen this before with movies and I usually get the premise and am for people breaking the chains but this is doubly problematic given they're trying to act like it's holding her back.

I just watched the trailer to reconfirm what I thought which was weird sexual implications on top of some other stereotype/tropes.

If it makes anyone feel better the trailer has way more dislikes than likes so at least humanity isn't completely distorted and perverted, right?
 

Professor Oak

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Nice to see the same undercover games being played by people in here.


Anywho, that French movie just has very horrid undertones in it anyway on top of the weird sexualizing of too young girls/children.

The movie's depiction of her Muslim parents as if they're trying to hold back progress when I would assume most parents wouldn't want their 11-12(whatever her age is) girls or boys dancing sexually and provocatively for an audience regardless of race or religion. She's going to school in a shirt that covers next to nothing cause it looks like a school which is odd? The trailer shows the mother as some angry person and I've seen this before with movies and I usually get the premise and am for people breaking the chains but this is doubly problematic given they're trying to act like it's holding her back.

I just watched the trailer to reconfirm what I thought which was weird sexual implications on top of some other stereotype/tropes.

If it makes anyone feel better the trailer has way more dislikes than likes so at least humanity isn't completely distorted and perverted, right?
I say this with a minor education in ethics and social psychology, FUCK humanity.
 

Dankster Morgan

she don’t call me daddy she call me Grandmaster
Nice to see the same undercover games being played by people in here.


Anywho, that French movie just has very horrid undertones in it anyway on top of the weird sexualizing of too young girls/children.

The movie's depiction of her Muslim parents as if they're trying to hold back progress when I would assume most parents wouldn't want their 11-12(whatever her age is) girls or boys dancing sexually and provocatively for an audience regardless of race or religion. She's going to school in a shirt that covers next to nothing cause it looks like a school which is odd? The trailer shows the mother as some angry person and I've seen this before with movies and I usually get the premise and am for people breaking the chains but this is doubly problematic given they're trying to act like it's holding her back.

I just watched the trailer to reconfirm what I thought which was weird sexual implications on top of some other stereotype/tropes.

If it makes anyone feel better the trailer has way more dislikes than likes so at least humanity isn't completely distorted and perverted, right?
Honestly, as if any decent parent would want their child to do this. Anyone who can view children in a sexual way or as anything other than children is disgusting. I feel sorry for the young girls in this movie.

Frustrates me that shit like this can be created but Sunny gets episodes outright deleted. Netflix obviously has no moral backbone, they care about looking the part. They stand for nothing, so they'll fall for anything. They exposed the fuck out of themselves, as angry as it makes me, you are right that we can be happy that humanity as a whole still condemns pedophiles. Which I wish I never even had to question.
 

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Following on from the Kenosha shooting, minorities in America need to arm themselves and fast.

That dorky scrawny sack of shit wouldn't have dared to unload on a group of armed protesters. Bragging on the phone about killing somebody, the fucking incel c u n t
 

ItsYaBoi

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Why is it that those type of things 9 out of 10 times occur in USA?
Because for all the talk of America being the greatest nation on Earth (lol), it's far fucking from it.

Ridiculously outdated gun laws, rife racism, corrupt politicians, huge wealth inequality, backwards health care system, mass unemployment, worst global handling of a pandemic, religious zealots with regressive dangerous views having huge influence and a society that manages to maintain both vanity and gluttony to disgustingly extreme levels.

It's a powder keg full of shit, and the US is in for heavy brown showers if things keep going the way they are.

Also, before somebody goes "kek, hypocrite" because I'm for gun control yet advocated minorities arming up a few posts above, simmer the fuck down. Right now one side is gearing up for war, now is not the time for gun control talk but instead it's time to level the playing field. Once America reaches a more stable point where things aren't so on edge, those gun control talks can be had again, with the end result of BOTH sides adhering to the law.
 

Anarchist_Gib

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Ridiculously outdated gun laws....
...those gun control talks can be had again.
Anyone who represents US gun laws as "outdated" always perplex me, as firearm laws tend to be incredibly in-depth and are constantly evolving in the face of newly available technology/equipment. One only needs to go through a proper carry course(required to posses a CHL or LTC) to see multiple examples of this.

I am perplexed even further by those who reference an apparent need for further gun control. Are you aware what percentage of the national aggregate of gun homicides occur in just Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, and D.C.? If not, I recommend that you reference CDC findings on the matter and you may(or may not) find yourself surprised, especially given that all of those cities exhibit further prudence with firearm regulation in comparison to their states at large. Another figure I'd love interested parties to research is general gun crime in metropolitan California versus metropolitan Texas, and see the efficacy of the strictest gun regulations in the nation.

I am actually immensely sympathetic to your earlier point of minority demographics arming themselves, as it is EVERYONE'S responsibility to be the first line of defense for themselves and the ones they love.
 
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ItsYaBoi

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Anyone who represents US gun laws as "outdated" always perplex me, as firearm laws tend to be incredibly in-depth and are constantly evolving in the face of newly available technology/equipment. One only needs to go through a proper carry course(required to posses a CDC or LTC) to see multiple examples of this.

I am perplexed even further by those who reference an apparent need for further gun control. Are you aware what percentage of the national aggregate of gun homicides occur in just Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, and D.C.? If not, I recommend that you reference CDC findings on the matter and you may(or may not) find yourself surprised, especially given that all of those cities exhibit further prudence with firearm regulation in comparison to their states at large. Another figure I'd love interested parties to research is general gun crime in metropolitan California versus metropolitan Texas, and see the efficacy of the strictest gun regulations in the nation.

I am actually immensely sympathetic to your earlier point of minority demographics arming themselves, as it is EVERYONE'S responsibility to be the first line of defense for themselves and the ones they love.
The problem with America currently is simply the fact that stricter gun control only covers certain states. There are then a myriad of ways to attain guns in states that have stricter gun control laws when neighbouring states are more lax about it. It's not rocket science. In order to have effective gun control the ENTIRE nation needs to get on board. All states. That's the end goal.

I point you to the UK on how to handle things, after they had their first mass shooting. I also point you to New Zealand for a far more recent example. The UK solved the problem and New Zealand are doing a fucking sterling job thus far.

One problem America does have is the sheer quantity of guns (which is fucking ridiculous by the way), and that's a problem they brought upon themselves by letting the problem fester this long because of something written on a piece of paper from hundreds of fucking years ago (when they didn't have weapons ANYWHERE NEAR the calibre of what they have today). But alas, it can still be done and it should be done. Peoples lives are far more important than playing with a shooty shooty toy and living out a army fetish without having the balls to sign up (and that is a LOT of gun owners unfortunately). People love to make the hunting argument too but you really, really don't need some of the weapons you can currently acquire to go out hunting. Some of them are designed to kill as many people as possible within as quick a time limit, that's a simple fact and that's what those in particular were designed for.

My mind will never budge on gun control, I think that the gun culture in America is fucking backwards and I value human life much more than that.
 

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especially given that all of those cities exhibit further prudence with firearm regulation in comparison to their states at large.
That's kind of the problem though. It doesn't matter what the City of Chicago does when people can just dip out of the city and find loopholes, either in other counties or simply going to Iowa or Wisconsin or Indiana.
 

Anarchist_Gib

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The problem with America currently is simply the fact that stricter gun control only covers certain states. There are then a myriad of ways to attain guns in states that have stricter gun control laws when neighbouring states are more lax about it. It's not rocket science. In order to have effective gun control the ENTIRE nation needs to get on board. All states. That's the end goal.
As a former Missouri FFL, I am intimately familiar with what happens when one of my stock ended up in another state as part of a crime. It:
A) represented a literally incalculably small percentage of my total sales(which were not a tiny figure)
B) Provided a definite paper trail as all FFLs nationwide are already obligated to run the form 4473 through FBI NICS section to verify legality of purchase.

The implication of point B is that most firearms procured for the purposes of gun crime occur in the state the crime actually occurs, notable exceptions being "ghost" imports and organized crime smuggling. You may be tempted to then quote private sales at auctions, but again as someone who's participated in such events most stands are either FFLs themselves and the one that aren't still take the proper precautions to facilitate a private sale for the purposes of removing liability from themselves.

I point you to the UK on how to handle things, after they had their first mass shooting. I also point you to New Zealand for a far more recent example. The UK solved the problem and New Zealand are doing a fucking sterling job thus far.
One problem America does have is the sheer quantity of guns (which is fucking ridiculous by the way), and that's a problem they brought upon themselves by letting the problem fester this long
The sheer abundance of firearms is a valid point, and no argument from either perspective will ever change the above fact. They are here to stay, and I'm glad for it.

because of something written on a piece of paper from hundreds of fucking years ago
This is a clear misrepresentation of firearm laws as not progressed from that time period, a point I've already addressed.

(when they didn't have weapons ANYWHERE NEAR the calibre of what they have today). But alas, it can still be done and it should be done. Peoples lives are far more important than playing with a shooty shooty toy and living out a army fetish without having the balls to sign up
Spoken like someone who's never hunted bore with black-powder versus an AR. Definitely facetious on that line, but the point would be that the percentage of people who make use of the latest available weapons are statistically the most law-abiding people there are. I've sold quite a few .50 calls and FN military-style rifles, not one was ever used with criminal intent. Peoples live are indeed important, which is why I carry.

My mind will never budge on gun control, I think the gun culture in America is fucking backwards and I value human life much more than that.
I can tell your not one to change on the subject, especially considering you make no reference to the actual findings per the CDC. I do find it important that passerby viewers who ARE more open/on the fence be enticed to pursue the research.

That's kind of the problem though. It doesn't matter what the City of Chicago does when people can just dip out of the city and find loopholes, either in other counties or simply going to Iowa or Wisconsin or Indiana.
A) What loopholes?
B) What percentage of such instances out of the national aggregate?
 
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Marlow

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A) What loopholes?
Gun Show loophole. Online sales loophole. Plenty of loopholes. https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/laws-and-loopholes

There's also the issue with the way guns can be classified. The shooter in Dayton Ohio had essentially a rifle with a 100 round double drum magazine. But because the barrel was short enough, and the grip was technically a pistol grip, it was considered a pistol and thus legal for him to own. https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/748665339/the-pistol-that-looks-like-a-rifle-the-dayton-shooters-gun

You can throw in Bump Stocks as well. It's another case where gun control law says one thing (owning automatic rifles are illegal) but people can simply mod their existing gun to essentially have an automatic weapon anyways.
 

Dankster Morgan

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There are already so many guns out there there is literally nothing that can be done. Texas by it's self has over 700k REGISTERED, not even considering unregistered guns. Good luck with that shit, you really think the government is gonna try and take almost a million guns from Texans? No fucking way. And that's just Texas. Florida. Even California is in the top 3. Will never happen.
 

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A cop shoots an unarmed black man in the back seven times for breaking up a fight.
All hell breaks loose.
The national guard is sent it.
Militia men show up and start shit on top of it.
Blame BLM and the rioters for everything.

Trump logic.

I'm so fucking tired of this.
Meanwhile, armed white protesters defy police and break into a State building. No casualties.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/906046911/ammon-bundy-is-arrested-and-wheeled-out-of-the-idaho-statehouse
 

Anarchist_Gib

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Gun Show loophole. Online sales loophole. Plenty of loopholes. https://www.bradyunited.org/issue/laws-and-loopholes
I've sold many online, all individuals shipping firearms are legally required for the recipient to be an FFL where upon the purchaser can be run through NICS(if the gun is crossing state lines). I've already addressed gun shows/auctions, what private sellers are conducting private sales still take the necessary steps to ensure lack of liability. The "Charleston" is a misunderstanding of a delayed NICS response. The particulars around a delay response vary from state to state, with it ranging from 3-30 days wait period. I have had a total of 3 delayed Denials where the firearms actually were transferred(my store elected for a seven day period instead of the state-mandated 3), each and every one the ATF personally became involved to rectify. If a delayed response never gets updated, it is legally defined as a proceed response.

There's also the issue with the way guns can be classified. The shooter in Dayton Ohio had essentially a rifle with a 100 round double drum magazine. But because the barrel was short enough, and the grip was technically a pistol grip, it was considered a pistol and thus legal for him to own. https://www.npr.org/2019/08/08/748665339/the-pistol-that-looks-like-a-rifle-the-dayton-shooters-gun
I actually agree that the ATF's approach to gun classification is erroneous much of the time. I don't understand the above point however, as laws surrounding pistols are much stricter than those surrounding rifles as it is.

You can throw in Bump Stocks as well. It's another case where gun control law says one thing (owning automatic rifles are illegal) but people can simply mod their existing gun to essentially have an automatic weapon anyways.
Owning automatics are not illegal, I've guided many persons through the process of obtaining the necessary credentials. I agree that bump stocks should fall into the category of controlled NFA items with autos and suppressors.
 

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Meanwhile, armed white protesters defy police and break into a State building. No casualties.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/25/906046911/ammon-bundy-is-arrested-and-wheeled-out-of-the-idaho-statehouse
I wonder who's gonna be the one this cycle of bullshit to try and tell us America isn't intrinsically racist as fuck, while we are literally watching the proof in the pudding unfold right in front of us? Except this time, we have the RNC playing in the background. Like we're stupid and we don't know exactly what you're saying without saying it every time you talk about the fucking suburbs.
 

Marlow

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I don't understand the above point however, as laws surrounding pistols are much stricter than those surrounding rifles as it is.
The point is people are able to buy a pistol, and then mod it into something much more deadly. Having laws or regulations to try and limit magazine size are worthless when people can simply buy a kit letting them mod it.
 

Anarchist_Gib

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The point is people are able to buy a pistol, and then mod it into something much more deadly. Having laws or regulations to try and limit magazine size are worthless when people can simply buy a kit letting them mod it.
I agree that limited capacity is a fools errand, one only look at the example of California to see that. But unlicensed modifications are already largely illegal, and most home-brew solutions pose more threat to the perpetrator than to others (I've personally seen a bolt blow back into someones face as the result of their hubris). Then you can look at other contemporary examples like the coat hanger mod to enable automatic fire, and all major manufacturers were quick to shift to a high-shelf receiver preventing such manipulation in the future.
 

Marlow

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I've already addressed gun shows/auctions, what private sellers are conducting private sales still take the necessary steps to ensure lack of liability
I'm sure most do, but the problem is that even if 95% do, that leaves 5% that don't, and with the number of guns available it means a lot of deadly firepower ending up in the hands of people who haven't been properly vetted.

To be clear, I don't think better Gun Control alone is magically going to solve anything. There's no silver bullet here. But it can certainly stand to be improved.
 

Anarchist_Gib

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I'm sure most do, but the problem is that even if 95% do, that leaves 5% that don't, and with the number of guns available it means a lot of deadly firepower ending up in the hands of people who haven't been properly vetted.

To be clear, I don't think better Gun Control alone is magically going to solve anything. There's no silver bullet here. But it can certainly stand to be improved.
I had a customer once, who ended up being a serial straw-purchaser, wherein he would purchase weapons for the sole purpose of selling them on the street. He will never again see the light of a free day, because
A) of course straw purchases are highly illegal, but also
B) the purchase of firearms with the express intent to profit or otherwise conduct repeat business requires an FFL, and multiple felony charges are associated with each individual instance of transfer without said license.
C) each and every firearm was at one point associated with my FFL record, each and every one providing definitive proof of a crime on the part of the purchaser. Applied to private sellers, they too are lawfully required to account for who they transferred firearms to absent a 4473 or else are eligible for charges of negligence or of conducting FFL services without license. I have seen many examples of this.

A lot of deadly firepower is relative. The instances of illegally procured firearms(not even those used in a crime, the entire statistic) is literally dwarfed in herculean magnitudes by the number of annual DGU(defensive gun use), this is a scale where the lawful exercise of firearm ownership is winning and winning in spades compared to illegal use/ownership. The deadly firepower is mostly right where it belongs, and most proposed attempts to further the discrepancy between the groups will only adversely impact lawful ownership.