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getting real tired of your shit, InfraTHIS I have my eye on...
getting real tired of your shit, InfraTHIS I have my eye on...
I don't know why anyone should ever be scared of saying a certain character is stronger than most of the cast at a particular patch point in a games life.I mean can't we just say Jupiter is just really good? Instead of his character. I mean Rico did reset the bracket if hadn't been sent to losers he would have won. Plus Jupiter hella adapted on the fly. Let's not pretend Mmh doesn't have a bunch of 5-5s. So it really means nothing about the character. It means someone got outplayed.
Not sure if your saying I'm denying it, everyone knows he's a good character but there's a lot of good characters. And good players with good characters in supposed 5-5 match ups just means somebody is just a better player.I don't know why anyone should ever be scared of saying a certain character is stronger than most of the cast at a particular patch point in a games life.
It was predicted as soon as the 1.6 patch notes were released; I don't know why people are trying to deny it now.
You know I think it's pretty clear at this point where the disconnect happened between people. The problem is: people started calling this character the "Kabal" of injustice.Again when I made some statements about him I overreacted making him seem unbeatable and he's very beatable but I also was asked where is my proof of how good he is. I said give it some time and the time is now .
There are a lot of good characters. Grundy is good, Zod is good, WW is good etc.Not sure if your saying I'm denying it, everyone knows he's a good character but there's a lot of good characters. And good players with good characters in supposed 5-5 match ups just means somebody is just a better player.
And if that's not what your talking about then please disregard lol
Well all I'm really tryna say is players should get more credit or even discredit, over who they play, like example I've seen a lot of people say WW - MMH is 5-5 (no need to argue this it's just an example)There are a lot of good characters. Grundy is good, Zod is good, WW is good etc.
But if you're calling MMH "just another good character" I'm not sure I agree.
I don't think he's Kabal, either -- but people should be realistic.
And as for matchups -- I don't think anyone has an authoritative MU chart for him yet. Clearly things are changing by the week. Remember, 'a lot of people' also said WW was close to the best character in the game prepatch and would be near-broken postpatch due to not receiving any nerfs.Well all I'm really tryna say is players should get more credit or even discredit, over who they play, like example I've seen a lot of people say WW - MMH is 5-5 (no need to argue this it's just an example)
So if a Martian beats a Diana then it shouldn't be like "oh Martian is broke" it should that that WW got outplayed you know?
Other one is Pound I thinkYou SPECIFICALLY said SMASH - "IRRELEVANT ASS GAME" LOL.
Apex is NOT the smash communities only major. There's Genesis too. And I'm sure there's two more. I can't think of them. Besides MK community has zero. Stand alone anyway. So yeah.
What makes Apex stand out is that they actually run other fighting games there too.
You SPECIFICALLY said SMASH - "IRRELEVANT ASS GAME" LOL.
Apex is NOT the smash communities only major. There's Genesis too. And I'm sure there's two more. I can't think of them. Besides MK community has zero. Stand alone anyway. So yeah.
What makes Apex stand out is that they actually run other fighting games there too.
Realistic is that MMH is no boogeyman. Realistic is that MMH is working just as hard to win as Aquaman, Batman, Zod, WW, Bane, Zatanna, Frost, Black Adam and all the other top 5s in the game despite the fact he's got two specialists in the driver's seat. People want to say MMH is S tier (or just better than the rest) because he looks good on paper and REO said so, but when the same gets said about WW we just laugh Foxy back into irrelevance. I don't know why we can't get there on this MMH thing. REO and Jupiter (two really good players who have been dedicated to him for months) duking it out in the Apex finals doesn't prove anything, unless you'd also accept that Grr v. Max or Theo v. KDZ or Rico v. DragonGod GF at a real actual major (all very likely if they travel) is also some kind of proof.I don't think he's Kabal, either -- but people should be realistic.
So many misconceptions here:Realistic is that MMH is no boogeyman. Realistic is that MMH is working just as hard to win as Aquaman, Batman, Zod, WW, Bane, Zatanna, Frost, Black Adam and all the other top 5s in the game despite the fact he's got two specialists in the driver's seat. People want to say MMH is S tier (or just better than the rest) because he looks good on paper and REO said so, but when the same gets said about WW we just laugh Foxy back into irrelevance. I don't know why we can't get there on this MMH thing. REO and Jupiter (two really good players who have been dedicated to him for months) duking it out in the Apex finals doesn't prove anything, unless you'd also accept that Grr v. Max or Theo v. KDZ or Rico v. DragonGod GF at a real actual major (all very likely if they travel) is also some kind of proof.
The MMH bandwagon has shifted gears to "he needs time" because when solid guys at all the locals picked up the martian they didn't just win. If 6 months isn't long enough for an S Tier butterfly to emerge from its cocoon or at least give some sign of taking over, it ain't happening. No S tier character in the history of S tier characters has needed that kinda time unless it required an exploit or an infinite to get there and if that's what Pig is talking about, then everybody in Injustice "needs time" because we all know how NRS games are.
No one has considered Bane low-tier for quite some time. He is NOT the same character that he was when he was initially released. It's doubtful Bane would be doing as well today without the plethora of buffs he received in numerous patches.-Grr and Maxintensity are indeed proof and they've shown that Bane is a viable Top 8 character now when he was widely considered to be the laughingstock of Injustice. I don't know what you were going for here, but those results speak for themselves.
Flash has been overrated almost since Injustice was released.Flash wasn't in top 8 at NEC, DTN, OR Apex. Are we going to claim that character as overrated as well?
The character isn't overrated, the players that have showcased him so far, are. I still believe he's a top 5 character, but so far he's getting the Sonya treatment.Flash has been overrated almost since Injustice was released.
Someone declared he was Top 5 and everyone else just followed along. Then after he was buffed people declared he was broken and everyone followed that too..
While he's still a good character, he's not what he was claimed to be.
Says who? You? The character has ALL of the tools, damage, and gimmicks to be in the top 5 conversation. It's WAY too early to claim Flash is overrated. Stop.Flash has been overrated almost since Injustice was released.
Someone declared he was Top 5 and everyone else just followed along. Then after he was buffed people declared he was broken and everyone followed that too..
While he's still a good character, he's not what he was claimed to be.
If u think Aquaman and MMH have same learning curve we have a problemRealistic is that MMH is no boogeyman. Realistic is that MMH is working just as hard to win as Aquaman, Batman, Zod, WW, Bane, Zatanna, Frost, Black Adam and all the other top 5s in the game despite the fact he's got two specialists in the driver's seat. People want to say MMH is S tier (or just better than the rest) because he looks good on paper and REO said so, but when the same gets said about WW we just laugh Foxy back into irrelevance. I don't know why we can't get there on this MMH thing. REO and Jupiter (two really good players who have been dedicated to him for months) duking it out in the Apex finals doesn't prove anything, unless you'd also accept that Grr v. Max or Theo v. KDZ or Rico v. DragonGod GF at a real actual major (all very likely if they travel) is also some kind of proof.
The MMH bandwagon has shifted gears to "he needs time" because when solid guys at all the locals picked up the martian they didn't just win (Edit: Or because somebody they know who is really good with MMH but doesn't tournament / travel blows them up). If 6 months isn't long enough for an S Tier butterfly to emerge from its cocoon or at least give some sign of taking over, it ain't happening. No S tier character in the history of S tier characters has needed that kinda time unless it required an exploit or an infinite to get there and if that's what Pig is talking about, then everybody in Injustice "needs time" because we all know how NRS games are.