Video/Tutorial - Cyber Sub-Zero Defending against CSZ B3D4 Ice Bomb hard to blockable after a corner knockdown

[Tom Brady]

 

[Scott The Scot]

Y'know guys. I kinda witnessed this live on stream. I'm kind of a big deal.

 

[SaltShaker]

Great work. Very much appreciated.

 

[gam224]

I can't wait for tom to complain about the inevitable CSZ nerfs

 

[M.D.]

Finally now every nerfcryer can move on to Cyrax.
Thank you Tom.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Still gonna get nerfed anyway

 

[LEGI0N47]

Preach Lord Brady

 

[SM StarGazer]

Lulz. But ice, and slides, and njps, and ice.

 

[DDutchguy]

For those wondering about the block stop Tom was talking about, a good example is Kung Lao's 11212 string. You'll notice that it is harder to get out on hit than on block. This is because the initial 11 animation takes longer when the opponent is blocking, thus giving you more time to input the 212.

 

[M2Dave]

What about ice bomb and dive kick set ups? The dive kick is an overhead that complements b+3 very well. b+1 is another overhead that is -1 on block.

Cassie's easy corner vortex game is gone. Quan Chi's easy vortex is gone. Tanya's easy pressure game is gone. Tremor's easy corner pressure game is gone.

Why should Cyber Sub Zero's easy corner vortex remain, especially when no resources are required?

Normalize this shit by tomorrow morning.

 

[WakeUp DP]

Finally now every nerfcryer can move on to Cyrax.
Thank you Tom.

Says that one crying about Subz since day 1.

 

[Samsara]

Hold on Tom, I was told that these were nigh unblockable setups. Are you telling me that you spent some time in the lab and learned how to defend against it?

Unheard of.

 

[Alright RyRy]

Hold on Tom, I was told that these were nigh unblockable setups. Are you telling me that you spent some time in the lab and learned how to defend against it?

Unheard of.

It's crazy when people actually practice instead of complain.

 

[M.D.]

Says that one crying about Subz since day 1.

Grandmaster is still broken, yes.
^_^

 

[scarsunseen]

I'm curious about trying to defend against close ex-ice bomb in this setup.

 

[M.D.]

Also news flash, Cyrax gets the exact same corner setup with 1112 into bomb into b3d4 d0h

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Thank you

 

[WATCHD0G]

Ok class is in session....I am Professor Brady, but you can refer to me as Lord Brady

 

[WakeUp DP]

Grandmaster is still broken, yes.
^_^

In the sense that ice clone doesn't work properly yes.

 

[ninjutsubreh]

the problem is the overhead dive kick.......

 

[Matix218]

Nice post Tom, definitely a great way to deal with that cyber sub setup

 

[REO]

You can counter the just frame hard to blockable with a delay tech roll if they do the B+3 too early. I have another set up that forces them to block the just frame hard to blockable if you read that they will do a delay wake up.

All you have to do is slightly delay the B+3. It's literally a one frame window from the overhead to low transition and in the heat of the battle this is extremely hard to block consistently. If you're off by this one single frame, you're eating about 40% and back in the blender.

 

[fr stack]

give it to me tom <3

 

[Matix218]

You can counter the just frame hard to blockable with a delay tech roll if they do the B+3 too early. I have another set up that forces them to block the just frame hard to blockable if you read that they will do a delay wake up.

All you have to do is slightly delay the B+3. It's literally a one frame window from the overhead to low transition and in the heat of the battle this is extremely hard to block consistently. If you're off by this one single frame, you're eating about 40% and back in the blender.

Do you think that this is too good?

 

[KombatJames]

For those wondering about the block stop Tom was talking about, a good example is Kung Lao's 11212 string. You'll notice that it is harder to get out on hit than on block. This is because the initial 11 animation takes longer when the opponent is blocking, thus giving you more time to input the 212.

Great observation bro