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Eldriken

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fr stack said:
aqua
batgirl
flash
mmh
supes
bane
batman
zod
doomsday
green lantern
deathstoke
just outside top 10 for me
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I'm probably the biggest Doomsday fan on this site, and what I'm about to say may shock you, but here goes:

He isn't top 10.
 
NRF CharlieMurphy

NRF CharlieMurphy

Kindergarten Meta
As long as he gets a stage with background bounce...... he is very good.
Just watching streams I can tell that having a background bounce makes all the difference because he gains like 12-15% more damage.

It is a shame his walk speed is just booty butt cheeks or he really would be an absolute force.

Here is a good question: In a tourney.... would you rather play as Wonder Woman or Deathstroke? Personally..... i'd pick DS. He has a component of not having to chase people at all times.
 
RM Truth

RM Truth

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Fred Marvel said:
i agree that he's good very underrated and not represented at the highest level
but what are these "great footsie tools" you speak of?
and dont his 50/50 options not lead to much damage?
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Mainly his F3.

He gets around 30ish percent meterless. That isn't bad.
 
@MylesWright_

@MylesWright_

I'll be back 3ing
Because nobody knew this about Deathstroke and no one has been saying he is upper-mid and a pretty good character oh wait...
 
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Fred Marvel

It's actually Freddy Marvel
RM Truth said:
Mainly his F3.

He gets around 30ish percent meterless. That isn't bad.
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ahh okay his f3 is pretty good
LtLuthor said:
Anything can be punished if you make it whiff. This isn't unique to sword spin. That's like saying "yeah, but this move doesn't hurt you if it doesn't hit you"
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but sword spin is very easy to make whiff since it has almost no range and it can be stuffed. DS wakeups arent bad but arent relly scary either
 
Tony at Home

Tony at Home

Master
Fred Marvel said:
ahh okay his f3 is pretty good

but sword spin is very easy to make whiff since it has almost no range and it can be stuffed. DS wakeups arent bad but arent relly scary either
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The issue is when you have a character that has a floaty jump, like Lex....

In order to make it whiff, you have to jump early, and when you jump early they have enough time to change the sword spin to a sword flip to catch you out of their air...

Unless you have a way to make it whiff other than neutral jumping or backdashing- in which case please enlighten me, cuz these wakeups drive me nuts.
 
RM Jonnitti

RM Jonnitti

Hot Dog
Rip Torn said:
She has no reason to smoke bomb unless you are being super predictable with gunshots. She can always get in against DS, so he is forced to deal with her mixups eventually. She can bait his wake ups just as easily and punishes with vortex. He is very reliant on meter while she doesn't need to use it too much at all.
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i disagree, i dont think DS is that reliant on meter in this matchup. the only time you would really be using meter is for MB F3 or B3 nd MB guns which arent really that applicable in this MU. what DS player is letting you get closer than sword range?
 
Srryimwhte

Srryimwhte

RM PTH
AVN PTH jonnitti said:
i disagree, i dont think DS is that reliant on meter in this matchup. the only time you would really be using meter is for MB F3 or B3 nd MB guns which arent really that applicable in this MU. what DS player is letting you get closer than sword range?
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stop feeding the fish jon
 
Rip Torn

Rip Torn

ALL I HAVE IS THE GREEN.
AVN PTH jonnitti said:
i disagree, i dont think DS is that reliant on meter in this matchup. the only time you would really be using meter is for MB F3 or B3 nd MB guns which arent really that applicable in this MU. what DS player is letting you get closer than sword range?
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Batgirl will always get in on Deathstroke. He can't keep her out. She just has to be a little patient and wait for the openings. If DS isn't throwing out low guns, she can just dash in. If he starts shooting guns, she can block or duck them and dash in. The one hope you have of keeping batgirl out is MB guns, because it can catch her dashing after the first 2 shots. That's not a really an effective strategy though. DS needs the meter for f3's and mb sword spin.

@Srryimwhte what are your thoughts on the matchup? You agree with Jon?
 
Srryimwhte

Srryimwhte

RM PTH
yeah jons right about the mu you can also shoot her out of bola if you hear the high pitched start up noise(with sound on a tournament set up respectively)
the best thing about ds is he may not be top ten but he is a far cry from being out side of the top 15 i
@AVN PTH jonnitti ,@Slips @Vagrant @I$AAC, @RedRaptor10 , @Argenrost, @MITDJT,
personally put him at 12 he has a lot of 5-5 mus
batgirl
aquaman
mmh
green arrow
green lantern
nightwing
lobo
sinestro
catwoman
killer frost
superman
black adam
wonder woman
bane,
harley
grundy
scorpion
zod
shazam
zatanna

maybe 3 losing mus
flash
doomsday
batman

and he beats
hawkgirl
lex luthor
joker
cyborg
ares
raven

this is my personal opinion
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Champion
i don't think ds mmh and zod are 5-5s at all... from my experience martian is way too mobile and has way to good of spacing and can even contend in the zoning game without risking tps especially with the lifelead.... as soon as i open ds up once i have all the time in the world...
 
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