Protagonist_1
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EDIT: Deleted this post since I feel there are better openings vs. Dr. Fate
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No problem! I haven't been around lately in the Cyborg forums because I've been busy learning more about frame data from different characters and analyzing matchups as I watch/play.@megamonk I just want to say thanks on the advice when it came to Dr. Fate in the matchup discussion thread. I faced one in ranked, and got the life lead early and decided to trade with the fireball. I even was able to stuff the EX fireball twice. I plan to upload it later today, still working on the matchup but it's a start.
All his cancels are minus, 113 BF1 cancel is his best and it's still like -1 or -2, around there, definitely not neutral thoughPlayed a long set against a good Cyborg last night, damn that really tests your patience lol it's like a minefield.
I found I could Cat Evade his projectiles but every time I did it allowed him to set up a free trait or TA.
I think Cyborg beats CatWoman maybe, or at least a 5-5.
Although I wasn't aware of his cancels up close, I poked out of a lot of them but I could probably mb B3 also.
Anyways they were really fun matches to test my patience, and was also so so so sweet when I push him to the corners, and bait out a grapple away, just to D2 him and put him back in the corner
Thanks man, I'll definitely challenge them every time.All his cancels are minus, 113 BF1 cancel is his best and it's still like -1 or -2, around there, definitely not neutral though
Definitely man... ex upball spoiled me... what I wouldnt do for a safe mid hitting wakeup againThanks man, I'll definitely challenge them every time.
You missing Kano?
So what match ups do you think he currently wins?Hoping to finish the Dr. Fate thread I made and later post on on Darkseid and later Deadshot. Really tedious, but when it comes to learning matchups it's totally worth it.
Hard to say since I don't consider myself at the highest level of play for Cyborg. At the moment, I think he beats Wonderwoman, and could potentially beat Black Adam and Atrocitus (could just be an even matchup). Since it's pretty early in the game, it's hard to tell though based off the amount of sets I've watched on these matchups and played. (I would include Swampthing, but the I haven't played this matchup enough, nor seen Swampthing players discuss it on the forums)So what match ups do you think he currently wins?
Not 100% sure about matchups he wins, but I will list some matchups that I personally feel comfortable in at this stage of the game (subject to change, of course):Hard to say since I don't consider myself at the highest level of play for Cyborg. At the moment, I think he beats Wonderwoman, and could potentially beat Black Adam and Atrocitus (could just be an even matchup). Since it's pretty early in the game, it's hard to tell though based off the amount of sets I've watched on these matchups and played. (I would include Swampthing, but the I haven't played this matchup enough, nor seen Swampthing players discuss it on the forums)
Curious to hear what other Cyborg players' thoughts on this.
I wish I knew the exact frame data for each but I don't. I prefer b123 since the pushback on it during the cancel means most character's pokes will whiff. Never really tried b231, should probably experiment with it more.Best string for special dash cancel? 113, b123, or b231 for most plus frames?
I honestly wish I knew, I have no idea. When it comes to matchup numbers, it's subjective considering what the "highest level of play" is. I would consider the highest level of play of Cyborg would have IAFB, be able to fuzzy guard all options off of f223, and have a good knowledge on when to punish, backdash, and counterpoke atrocitus's strings and normals.@Protagonist_1 what is mu agains atrocitus in your opinion? ...given the fact that Cyborg player can perform iafb.
YO THIS IS GODLIKE!!! I'm going to do the same thing for Dr. Fate when I get the chance as well as Deadshot. Good stuff Kekoa!!!Nothing really new, just some options to punish Darkseid if they choose to Omega Beam after Cyborg's IAFB. From ranges 2, 3 and 6.
So I've been testing it and this is what I got so far:Someone might want to test this, but when playing vs. my training partner (Atrocitus), I did f22 and it beat out shield!?! If it's a legit meter less option to avoid trait, I'll take it:
Sick! Going to add this to my Dr. Fate thread also haha. Really appreciate the hard work!!!Cyborg has similar options against Fate after IAFB. This was from range 3. @Protagonist_1 I can't wait to see everything you come up with for Fate and Deadshot, those matches give me a headache lol.