Phosferrax
Original Liu Kang cop.
IAGB are why he rapes nearly everyone for free. They're not overrated, although I do agree they should have both a recovery and damage nerf and his NDC shouldn't be touched.
IAGB are why he rapes nearly everyone for free. They're not overrated, although I do agree they should have both a recovery and damage nerf and his NDC shouldn't be touched.
What it would ruin ? He would still be a good zoner. How come he couldn't cancel his dash in other games and he was fine, now he gets an ability to cancel it (for no reason) and you people cry me a river that he needs this shit ?
Yes because I've already told you that your nerfs don't fix the problem, they just skew his gameplan into throwing more fireballs then usual. They don't make a balanced character, but if the nerfs that mostly everyone else is suggesting take on board then he is balanced. He wouldn't even be no.1 anymore.
In other games from what I understand, nomad dash was waay faster. Overall, you seem to be going in the wrong direction with a lot of characters as far as nerfing/buffing goes.
God forbid someone to have bad matchups, right ?
At least with those changes when you catch him it does feel rewarded. But whatever, I'm not gonna argue with someone who thinks IAGB is the real problem when facing Kabal.
God forbid nerfing a character while still leaving him good.
I guess, if it were up to me I'd make it 0 anyway, I'm just saying even Kabal has holes.
I'm not entirely sure if I agree with this, won't people just start saying the same about Liu Kang who arguably already has a better IAFB/better footsies to check with in between? If someone's prerogative is to chuck air fireballs that do nothing to me and jail themselves instead of playing mixups, pressure, enough meter build to provoke me into a risk (and I don't just say this as a Scorpion player, I've put up with this in UMK3 where IAGBs actually shut down the game's universal means of mobility), then by all means, do it.
Well yeah, it was only because of the cancel that it was compensated.
Tell me about it. Suggests a whole bunch of unnecessary buffs for Ermac, tells me I'm balancing Kabal wrong.
Reading comprehension 101
Who cares whether it 'feels rewarding'? The reason he destroys half of the cast is because they don't have ANY answer to IAGB spam, kabal doesn't have to play the spacing or footises game in nearly all of his MU's because of this move, and they when they do get in they have to deal with his pressure, but if the IAGB weren't a problem then it's fine because he does have to play better than the opponent to beat them instead of just spamming fireballs because over 3/4 of the cast can't do shit about it.
Yeah but the problem is his alround screen presence. If you don't have the lifelead and kabal is just spamming fireballs at you then good luck. It doesn't make for entertaining gameplay and is hardly fair.
Dude, you can't IAGB all day, game has corners you know ? Or are you going to do that even the corner ? Yeah, eat a NW shoulder, Ermac's push, Kano ball and dozens of other things for doing that. At least now he would have to think how to get himself out of corner instead of doing flash parry or "i'm in the corner, welp, let's start NDC pressure then".
This is exactly what her armor does in this tech, "it last only until the first hit of ex Up Slash or ex downslash", such as her slide or down slash. or upslash. The move won't stay armored until the last active frame of these moves, this speculation is false, her armor can only be extended lastly to 45 frames, which its achieved with downslash at the very last frame of Krimson Dash, the full move with the extension has 47 frames. This means, in the last 3 frames of a downslash she doesn't have armor anymore, such as the last 3 frames of up slash, slide etc etc. They get hit by it because their breaker has issues, "it only hits once" it should be like everybody else that hits twice" btw, why would i want to interrupt that when i can simply block it and punish? and Kabal Nomad Charge only has armor in startup, Sub-Zero also, pretty much everyone else, besides Rain, Kenshi, and Skarlet.
Yeah but without the IAGB being a problem then nearly entire cast's gameplan changes from 'wait till the corner to have a chance' to 'play a competitive footsies game and the better player wins'.
I was actually saying I think Liu Kang already has a better IAFB game than Kabal
. If you meant everything else you have to respect as a result of the IAGB, then yeah that's a different story. But I don't think it's game breaking or footsie defying on it's own, in MK9.No, resets are resets. I think EX clone should absorb armor and the startup on puddle should be cut to the actual shot though. (not to change the animation but just around that amount of startup, for both versions.)
That's actually how the Kabal matches go. You don't realise that if you take away IAGB, you will nerf him more than those changes I propose. Also, footsies when there is flash parry and ndc ? Don't make me laugh.
No way does Kang have better IAFB simply because they recover slower. And kabal has a better footsie game because he as moves with similar range to kang but is at advantage on block, unlike kang.I was actually saying I think Liu Kang already has a better IAFB game than Kabal
And with that, this thread went to hell.
Yeah, so fuck letting kabal matches go that way anymore. What aren't you getting about this? We're attempting to make the character BALANCED, not leave him a lob-sided spam fest. If he lost the IAGB then the Kabal player has to think all match, if he keeps them he doesn't until he gets to the corner. Then even more kabals would just pick rooftop day and fuck there goes your patient waiting game.