Can You React To A 18 Frame Over Head?

[IrishMantis]

Sure if it was the only move the char had you would.
But you are reacting to an animation of a move rather than the move its self as your brain reacts to a move but can't tell if OH/Low

 

[dennycascade]

Of course I react to shinnoks b3 every time. Still get hit by it every time though. Not sure if that's just the few frames of delay or I just don't have the best reactions

 

[ShotgunInsanity]

I'm able to react to Jagos fireball in 20 frames or less pretty consistently but that's because it has a very obvious visual and audible queue.

 

[BillStickers]

Personally, I can't react to anything under 30 frames consistently (I make a shitload of reads so I do really well against scrubs and get mopped up by strong players). However, I think people confuse themselves between reads, fuzzy guarding, and actual reacting.

If you're fighting characters like Shinnok (where the two mixup attacks have vastly different startups) and thinking you're reacting, chances are you're just fuzzy guarding without knowing what that means. That is why good players will stagger their strings if they know you're waiting for a mixup -- to blow up fuzzy guarding.

 

[JerzeyReign]

Played the reaction speed game mentioned earlier. My fastest reaction was 2 (pure luck) but I was consistently between 19.5 and 25 frames. Old man reactions haha.

 

[Name v.5.0]

I voted yes because you can, but this question is rigged. You're not just reacting to an 18 frame overhead.

 

[RiBBz22]

Just fuzzy the low into the overhead since they are 7 frames different. You will get hit by most b3d4's but who cares.

 

[Danger317]

i was getting 17.4 maybe not consistently more than a few times and it still said i failed. so that overhead from that test has to be like 16 or better. Yea you aren't reacting to that.

 

[Reauxbot]

You guys forgot to calculate the heat of the moment and nerves

 

[Wolverine32]

I've been hearing this discussion for quite some time (Since the shinnok overhead was added and again with smoke) that an 18f over head can be reacted towards.



I believe its more of a read than reaction and some confuse the two.. but I could be wrong

Definitely a read. That's what like 1/3 of a second in real time?

 

[thlityoursloat]

You can't react to sub's b2.

I'ma keep sayin this until it gets burned into the bits of the internet.

The worst part about Scrub Zero's b2 isn't that it's unreactable, it's the animation. He slaps you like you're his bitch.
I love doing fatalities/brutals that involve chopping his arm off, stupid OP freak.

 

[Prinz]

Oh yeah, meterburn on reaction dawg.

 

[Geoffmeister]

Reacting to anything below 20 frames is impossible. but a read is always possible.

didn't we allready prove this with the Millia Blocker?

the brain takes 1/4 of a second to transfer visual q's and longer to react to them.

sound is faster.

but lets face it, last time we tested this @SonicFox5000 could only get 19frames reaction time.


here it is again if you wanna try and post them below:

http://www.teyah.net/MilliaBlocker_v0.3.swf


and i might add when he got 19 it wasn't consistent, but he did the best from what i herd

@MrSunshine
can you add this reaction test into the OP so everyone can test it and post below?

I'm not sure if this is the best way to test reaction speed, you're still sending a signal to the website so isn't there a short delay opposed to offline?
And one of the overheads (the moon effect) is way less concealed, I can see people getting better times depending on which OH's they choose to block.
Feel free to correct me though, I think this is pretty interesting!

 

[HeroesNZ]

Nope. People are guessing halfway through the animation and mistaking it for a reaction. If someone tells you they can react to <20f attacks consistently in training mode, i.e without adrenaline then they're 100% bullshitting.

 

[16 Bit]

No one ever reacts to anything and no one ever actually fuzzies anything. It's all bullshit. I just did whatever I wanted and it opened everyone up.

 

[Second Saint]

I would try but I haven't played games in a while so I basically suck at everything now. @Second Saint you remember the reaction test?

Yeah, I bookmarked it. Also, as far as I know, you had the best score out of people I asked to take it on Steam.

http://www.teyah.net/MilliaBlocker_v0.3.swf

Edit: Ok, after actually reading this thread, I realize you didn't just want it posted. Yeah, I remember you getting a few 14's, but I also remember a 1, so those could have been partially prediction. You were the only person I know of that was getting under 20 on the regular though.

 

[Shirai Ryu Dog]

No, I hate these things

 

[Vigilante24]

I cant even react to Sub Zero's 31f Overhead because im so free.

 

[Dizzy]

No.

I wish @GGA Saucy Jack was still around to administer his nightwing test

 

[TKB]

Technically speaking, it isn't IMPOSSIBLE to react to an 18 frame move. Watch a video of Kuroda playing SF:3rd Strike.

However for most normal people, yes it's pretty much impossible lol.

 

[MrSunshine]

Personally, I can't react to anything under 30 frames consistently (I make a shitload of reads so I do really well against scrubs and get mopped up by strong players). However, I think people confuse themselves between reads, fuzzy guarding, and actual reacting.

If you're fighting characters like Shinnok (where the two mixup attacks have vastly different startups) and thinking you're reacting, chances are you're just fuzzy guarding without knowing what that means. That is why good players will stagger their strings if they know you're waiting for a mixup -- to blow up fuzzy guarding.

Best answer for me. I also didn't consider the animation with the frames. So I guess it just depends on the characters overall tools?

 

[MrSunshine]

No.

I wish @GGA Saucy Jack was still around to administer his nightwing test

Bring him out, Dawg.

 

[Crusty]

Can people react to Aquman's b2, Scorpion's b2 and Martian's b2?

I get hit by those a hand ton, at least online even I see their asses wind up.

 

[MrSunshine]

Currently, 90 say no and 44 say yes

 

[JTB123]

No one ever reacts to anything and no one ever actually fuzzies anything. It's all bullshit. I just did whatever I wanted and it opened everyone up.

I like this way of thinking.