YoungTeezy 305
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same as in player matches. In the stage select screen, tap 1 to open the menu
same as in player matches. In the stage select screen, tap 1 to open the menu
I don't like this. Why are you immediately writing off the statements of someone who mains the character, who has been labbing since the instant the game was released, for the statements made by commentators, a notoriously unreliable place for information? Somebody has tested it, yes, and that somebody is me and other Brainiac players. Everything I say feel free to lab yourself and find the information I am giving right now for yourself. I set Firestorm to reversal charge (8 frame reversal, equivalent of 7 frame normal) for testing for legit pressure with trait. Firestorm punishes the second hit of divekick EVERY SINGLE TIME no matter how it is spaced.
I guess since it's like day 3 and all perhaps people are getting away with some bullshit especially with one of the less played characters who a lot of people haven't even unlocked yet? The fact that MB divekick is most definitely AT LEAST -8 should open your eyes to the human level involved with fighters especially at day 3.
We don't have to. Take Brainiac to lab. Set character to 8 frame reversal. See if you can even make MB divekick safe, let alone plus.
I was able to make MB Divekick safe against Flash's Super which comes out in 6 frames. Also, it was pretty easy to make his regular divekick safe just by hitting below the waist like @Youngteezy said. Also, you can significantly decrease the gap between the first hit of divekick and the second meterburn hit by hitting them below the waist.
The second hit unpunishable? I don't know how, I tried hitting is meaty as possible, not happening for me? Can you make a video of it?
Yup thats pretty established that you can do that, irrelevant tho because we are talking about combo openers in the combo thread and non-MB divekick is not one.
Yes, thats established too, but while poking out between the hits is POSSIBLE if it hits you high, thats not where the punish is on MB divekick, and still a B/F3 MB is still pretty easy to put in the middle of this gap no matter how tight you make it.
Well, that somebody is me, I've tested everything I told you.
Just divekick over their head and mb it should give you perfect range.
Nice find, that does indeed make it JUST unpunishable on block, but no where near plus. Regardless, it's not safe, as they can just jab you out EASILY as you land.
I'm not acting like I have all the answers, I'm telling you WHAT I'VE FOUND IN THE LAB and you were immediately discounting it as "yeah nope you're just reading the frame data" like wat. I also didn't say MB B3 is going to punish regular Divekick. I didn't say it wasn't going to take a read. I didn't even IMPLY that. Guess what, to punish ANYTHING you have to make a read on it and block when necessary. Stop putting words in my mouth and deciding for other people what they have/haven't done and are/aren't saying. I'm not saying bad about him, I'm a big fan of the character, I'm not making any sort of tier based assement 3 days in, I was simply correcting your misinformation so that we can all improve. I'm also not discounting anybody's opinion, the only person who did that was you. It's nothing that you need to take personal and if you feel I'm then incorrect, please by all means inform me how, but don't just say "yeah nope thats just reading the wrong frame data not testing", when I have tested, and the frame data is not wrong. That's just wasting everybody's time.
Ideally, you'd be doing crossover divekick on their wakeup so they couldn't poke.
Really appreciate you taking the time to include inputs in the text...it helps so much.
