John Grizzly
The axe that clears the forest
I'm really excited to play Manta, so I want to take the responsibility of making his combo thread. What doesn't excite me is sitting down to try a new character and see that their combo thread hasn't had shit updated since the day the game launched. I'm not going to let that happen for my man Manta here.
ALL COMBOS PERFORMED ON SUPERMAN IN COMPETITIVE MODE
LEGEND:
MANTA RAYS (B,F+1)
SHARK ATTACK (B,F+2)
AIR SHARK ATTACK (in air B,F+2)
TORPEDO CANNON (D,B+2)
AIR TORPEDO CANNON (in air D,B+2)
RISING TIDE (D,F+3)
HARPOON (D,B+3)
AIR HARPOON (in air D,B+3)
AIR CLOSE HARPOON (in air D,B+3~D)
FLOAT (4)
AIR FLOAT (in air 4)
SWITCH STANCE (AIR FLOAT CANCEL)
~ (CANCEL INTO SPECIAL)
METERLESS MIDSCREEN (NO TRAIT):
His corner potential seems crazy with the float. The above combo is trash but I feel like there's a lot to be discovered with his float combos, especially with the float cancel after the normals out of the float. He sort of feels like Spectral Ermac in the corner.
*RAPTOR UPDATE*
Combos from Noble Raptor, video at the bottom:
Midscreen:
123/2D3/B22/F21 BF1
123/2D3/B22/F21 DB3
B11U3 DB3
B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3
B11U3 HOLD F4 J3 J3 BF2 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3
2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 J3 123 DB3
* Alternate side-switch combo: 2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 F2 DB2 B11U3 DB3
1/B2/3 HOLD F4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/B2/3 HOLD F4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 MB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB B11U3 HOLD F4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB 123 DB3
2D3 BGB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3
2D3 BGB B3 J3 123 DB3
Corner:
B11U3 4 J3 CANCEL B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
2D3/B22 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB B1 B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL 2D3 DB2 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL 2D3 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
* Slightly more damaging combo: 1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 J2 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 DB3
ALL COMBOS PERFORMED ON SUPERMAN IN COMPETITIVE MODE
LEGEND:
MANTA RAYS (B,F+1)
SHARK ATTACK (B,F+2)
AIR SHARK ATTACK (in air B,F+2)
TORPEDO CANNON (D,B+2)
AIR TORPEDO CANNON (in air D,B+2)
RISING TIDE (D,F+3)
HARPOON (D,B+3)
AIR HARPOON (in air D,B+3)
AIR CLOSE HARPOON (in air D,B+3~D)
FLOAT (4)
AIR FLOAT (in air 4)
SWITCH STANCE (AIR FLOAT CANCEL)
~ (CANCEL INTO SPECIAL)
METERLESS MIDSCREEN (NO TRAIT):
- D1~BF1 - 135.45
- B22~BF1 - 160.76
- 123~BF1 - 197.13
- B11U3~DB3 - 203.05
- 21~BF1 - 201.27
- 2D3~BF1 - 187.44
- F21~BF1 - 173.44
- B3, JI3, B11, B11~BF1 - 345.65
- B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~BF2 - 372.06
- F3, JI3, B11, B11U+3~DB3 - 372.06
- D2, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 207.53
- B11U3, D2, B11U3~DB3 - 253.22
- B3, JI3, B1, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 379.32
- D2~DB2, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 293.69
- B11U3~4, 2, 3~BF2 - 269.37
- B22xx4, 3~DB3 - 219.10
- 3~4, 2~SS, B11U3~4 1, 1~SS, B11U3~DB3 - 268.11
- B11U3~4, 3, 3~BF2 - 295.73
- D2, JI3, B11, B11,U3~DB3 - 267.18
- D2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 302.23
- D2~DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~BF2 - 298.41
- F21~BB, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 423.32
- B22~BB, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 385.02
- F21~MB DF3, F2~BB, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 444.37
- B22~MB DF3, F2~BB, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 403.92
- B22~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 299.87
- 3~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 386.24
- F21~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 328.44
- 2D3~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 334.69
- B3, JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~BF2 - 430.26
- JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~DB3 - 403.16
- MB B3, JI3, B1, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 441.65
- B22~MB DB2, B3, DB2, dash, B11U3~DB3 - 315.69
- 123~MB DF3, 123, 123~BF1 - 367.14
- 2D3~MB DB2, F3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 374.04
- 2D3~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 383.09
- 3~4, 2~DB2, 2~DB2, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~DB3 - 354.37
- 3~4, 2~SS, B22~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 322.36
- F2~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 446.67
- B22~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 416.46
- MB B3, JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~BF2 - 492.59
- 2D3~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B1, B11, B11,U3~DB3 - 464.31
- 123~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, 123~BB, JI3, 123~BF1 - 542.63
- B11U3~4, 2, 2, 2~DB3 - 275.70
- B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~DB3 -280.57
- B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~BF2 - 296.50
- B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 300.45 (see gif below)
- F21~MB DF3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 345.48
- B22~MB DB2, F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 351.98 (see gif below)
- MB F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 446.69 (see gif below)
- MB F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~SS, 123~BF1 - 460.86
- 123~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 478.32
- B22~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 426.42
- 3~4, 2~SS, 3~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 401.37
His corner potential seems crazy with the float. The above combo is trash but I feel like there's a lot to be discovered with his float combos, especially with the float cancel after the normals out of the float. He sort of feels like Spectral Ermac in the corner.
*RAPTOR UPDATE*
Combos from Noble Raptor, video at the bottom:
Midscreen:
123/2D3/B22/F21 BF1
123/2D3/B22/F21 DB3
B11U3 DB3
B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3
B11U3 HOLD F4 J3 J3 BF2 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3
2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 J3 123 DB3
* Alternate side-switch combo: 2D3/B22 DB2 MB B3 F2 DB2 B11U3 DB3
1/B2/3 HOLD F4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/B2/3 HOLD F4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 MB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB B11U3 HOLD F4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB 123 DB3
2D3 BGB B3 J3 B11 B11U3 DB3
2D3 BGB B3 J3 123 DB3
Corner:
B11U3 4 J3 CANCEL B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
2D3/B22 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
123/F21 DF3 MB B1 B11U3 4 J3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL 2D3 DB2 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL B11U3 D2 B11 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 F J2 DB2 CANCEL 2D3 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 DB3 (Requires Hydro Jetpack)
* Slightly more damaging combo: 1/2D3/B22/3 4 J2 DB2 J2 DB2 MB F3 J3 B11U3 DB3
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