Black Manta Combo Thread

Discussion in 'Black Manta' started by John Grizzly, Aug 27, 2017.

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  1. John Grizzly

    John Grizzly The axe that clears the forest
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    I'm really excited to play Manta, so I want to take the responsibility of making his combo thread. What doesn't excite me is sitting down to try a new character and see that their combo thread hasn't had shit updated since the day the game launched. I'm not going to let that happen for my man Manta here.

    ALL COMBOS PERFORMED ON SUPERMAN IN COMPETITIVE MODE

    LEGEND:

    MANTA RAYS (B,F+1)
    SHARK ATTACK (B,F+2)
    AIR SHARK ATTACK (in air B,F+2)
    TORPEDO CANNON (D,B+2)
    AIR TORPEDO CANNON (in air D,B+2)
    RISING TIDE (D,F+3)
    HARPOON (D,B+3)
    AIR HARPOON (in air D,B+3)
    AIR CLOSE HARPOON (in air D,B+3~D)
    FLOAT (4)
    AIR FLOAT (in air 4)
    SWITCH STANCE (AIR FLOAT CANCEL)
    ~ (CANCEL INTO SPECIAL)

    METERLESS MIDSCREEN (NO TRAIT):
    • D1~BF1 - 135.45
    • B22~BF1 - 160.76
    • 123~BF1 - 197.13
    • B11U3~DB3 - 203.05
    • 21~BF1 - 201.27
    • 2D3~BF1 - 187.44
    • F21~BF1 - 173.44
    • B3, JI3, B11, B11~BF1 - 345.65
    • B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~BF2 - 372.06
    • F3, JI3, B11, B11U+3~DB3 - 372.06
    • D2, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 207.53
    • B11U3, D2, B11U3~DB3 - 253.22
    • B3, JI3, B1, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 379.32
    • D2~DB2, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 293.69

    METERLESS MIDSCREEN (WITH TRAIT):
    • B11U3~4, 2, 3~BF2 - 269.37
    • B22xx4, 3~DB3 - 219.10
    • 3~4, 2~SS, B11U3~4 1, 1~SS, B11U3~DB3 - 268.11
    • B11U3~4, 3, 3~BF2 - 295.73

    ANTI-AIR (NO TRAIT):
    • D2, JI3, B11, B11,U3~DB3 - 267.18
    • D2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 302.23
    • D2~DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~BF2 - 298.41

    METERLESS MIDSCREEN W/ BACKGROUND BOUNCE:
    • F21~BB, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 423.32
    • B22~BB, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 385.02
    ONE BAR MIDSCREEN W/ BACKGROUND BOUNCE:
    • F21~MB DF3, F2~BB, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 444.37
    • B22~MB DF3, F2~BB, B3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 403.92

    ONE BAR MIDSCREEN (NO TRAIT):
    • B22~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 299.87
    • 3~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 386.24
    • F21~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 328.44
    • 2D3~MB DF3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 334.69
    • B3, JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~BF2 - 430.26
    • JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~DB3 - 403.16
    • MB B3, JI3, B1, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 441.65
    • B22~MB DB2, B3, DB2, dash, B11U3~DB3 - 315.69
    • 123~MB DF3, 123, 123~BF1 - 367.14
    • 2D3~MB DB2, F3, JI3, B11U3~DB3 - 374.04
    • 2D3~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 383.09
    ONE BAR MIDSCREEN (WITH TRAIT):
    • 3~4, 2~DB2, 2~DB2, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~DB3 - 354.37
    • 3~4, 2~SS, B22~MB DB2, B3, JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 322.36
    TWO BAR MIDSCREEN (NO TRAIT):
    • F2~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 446.67
    • B22~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11, B11U3~DB3 - 416.46
    • MB B3, JI3, 123~MB DF3, B11U3~BF2 - 492.59
    • 2D3~DB+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B1, B11, B11,U3~DB3 - 464.31
    TWO BAR MIDSCREEN W/ BACKGROUND BOUNCE:
    • 123~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, 123~BB, JI3, 123~BF1 - 542.63
    METERLESS CORNER (WITH TRAIT):
    • B11U3~4, 2, 2, 2~DB3 - 275.70
    • B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~DB3 -280.57
    • B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~BF2 - 296.50
    • B11U3~4, 3~SS, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 300.45 (see gif below)
    CORNER ONE BAR (WITH TRAIT):
    • F21~MB DF3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 345.48
    • B22~MB DB2, F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 351.98 (see gif below)
    • MB F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 446.69 (see gif below)
    • MB F3, JI3, B11U3~4, 3~SS, 123~BF1 - 460.86
    CORNER TWO BAR (WITH TRAIT):
    • 123~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 478.32
    • B22~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 426.42
    • 3~4, 2~SS, 3~DF+MB (bounce cancel), JI3, B11U3~4, 3~DB3 - 401.37

    His corner potential seems crazy with the float. The above combo is trash but I feel like there's a lot to be discovered with his float combos, especially with the float cancel after the normals out of the float. He sort of feels like Spectral Ermac in the corner.

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    Last edited: Nov 11, 2017
  2. Darth Mao

    Darth Mao Prophet of Rage, Booyah Militia Commander

    PLEASE
     
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  3. STRYKIE

    STRYKIE #ACFE

    Not planning on playing Manta, but just quoting to say you have my respect for this. There needs to be more people on TYM who think this way.
     
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  4. John Grizzly

    John Grizzly The axe that clears the forest
    Premium Supporter

    Even if I somehow don't end up playing the character, I'll keep updating this. I think I played maybe 3 games of ranked Firestorm but I kept up with that combo thread and it's a pretty comprehensive list at this point. Thanks man.
     
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  5. John Grizzly

    John Grizzly The axe that clears the forest
    Premium Supporter

    If anyone is on Xbox and wants to play as Manta right now, here's how:

    1 - Acess Settings, on the left side of the dashboard

    2 - Select All Settings

    3 - Select System

    4 - Select Language & Location

    5 - Put Language on english

    6 - Put location as New Zealand

    7 - Select restart now

    8 - Select manage game at the Injustice 2 icon

    9 - In the ready to install part, download the Black Manta DLC (Wait for it)

    10 - Launch the game, accept the terms for New Zealand, wait the game to update data and let the AI attract screen battle start

    11 - After that, click A and open the roster. He will be there ready to play.

    12 - Exit the game, put language and the location to yours, restart again. Done.


    I'll be home around 7 or so eastern time, so I'll be updating the OP with some combos. This will interrupt my Destiny 2 time, but I can't wait to play this character!
     
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  6. when is ot?
     
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  7. Red Reaper

    Red Reaper The Hyrax Whisperer

    Is there a similar method for PSN?
     
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  8. x TeeJay o

    x TeeJay o Canary Cry Gapless Pressure
    Moderator Royal Contributor

    i think u can but u will get banned on ps4 doing it
     
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  9. WynterEnd

    WynterEnd Your sacrifice honors me!

    So I've got him on xbox currently!

    A disappointing number of strings link to his db2 mb (the missle). More link to his mb teleport punch, but the damage seems to scale heavily on it and you can't get a b3 after the mb tele.

    His trait float doesn't (at 20 min of time with him) seem to extend combos much. As far as canceling for pressure it's way too early to tell. Timing is kinda funky though, you can't just dial it in. Like 1,2,3x4x2xdb3. It is more1,2,3 (pause a quarter beat) 4 (pause half a beat) 2xdb3...

    The positive is that he's safe on like EVERY string. Kinda amazing. b1 and f2 are great footsie tools it feels like. Loving him so far. Also, he's for sure my main so I'll be happy to contribute to this character forum more moving forward!

    If you want me to type up some combos with damage on competitive superman I will
     
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  10. hatyr

    hatyr tease out the impurities

    Didn't they show him connecting a B3 after MB Teleport on the Watchtower stream? Maybe I'm misremembering but I thought so.
     
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  11. WynterEnd

    WynterEnd Your sacrifice honors me!

    Must have been after the MB missiles, no chance to connect it after the mb tele
     
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  12. just_2swift

    just_2swift Dabbing JoJo

    John grizzly for combo thread president
     
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  13. hatyr

    hatyr tease out the impurities

    Ah, yep. Went back and watched. Looks like he's connecting the F2. Didn't mean to second-guess you ;) I'm excited to get my hands on him tomorrow.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 15, 2017
  14. DC King

    DC King Noob

    Can't wait to test this character out tomorrow. Hopefully this will be the end of my character crisis.
     
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  15. karaokelove

    karaokelove Premium Supporter
    Premium Supporter

    Yeah, I'd definitely like to see what kind of damage he can dish out. Thanks!
     
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  16. WynterEnd

    WynterEnd Your sacrifice honors me!

    Some day 0 combos for you, including notation as some (me) like to read it too!


    8-frame standing 1 (high) starter: 123 x DF3 MB, B11, B11U3 x DB3 = 344 damage

    .


    14-frame low then overhead starter: B22 x DB2 MB, B3, J3 (late), B11U3 x DB3 = 337 damage

    .


    1232 ends in a low, 123 x MBF3 is then a two bar mixup: 123 x MBF3, J2, B11U3 x DB3 = 422 damage

    .


    double jip trait float shenanigans: JI2 x 4 x 2 x LB1(cancels flight), 123 X DF3 MB, F21 x BF2 = 290 damage
     
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  17. K7L33THA

    K7L33THA Grapple > Footsies
    Premium Supporter

    XBL:
    K7L33THA
    Yoooo this works. Got him now!
     
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  18. EntropicByDesign

    EntropicByDesign Confused and afraid.

    I am so jealous right now.
     
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  19. JBeezYBabY

    JBeezYBabY Mr. Righteous

    This character definitely gives me a Sector vibe and that was my dude! So I'm looking forward to playing me some Black Manta. Thank you for this!
     
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  20. karaokelove

    karaokelove Premium Supporter
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    Ugh, I'm in Boston until tomorrow afternoon. Can't wait to get home and start labbing for my Ultimate Black Manta Guide...
     
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  21. K7L33THA

    K7L33THA Grapple > Footsies
    Premium Supporter

    XBL:
    K7L33THA
    Hitting b3 off mb db2 seems hella tight to connect. :/
     
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  22. WynterEnd

    WynterEnd Your sacrifice honors me!

    Actually pretty easy. You can even mash and get it every time. Looks much tighter than it actually is
     
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  23. So can't get him on PS4 early?
     
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  24. Darth Mao

    Darth Mao Prophet of Rage, Booyah Militia Commander

    Tomorrow
     
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  25. FLA_Anarquisto

    FLA_Anarquisto Zoning AnCap, purveyor of fine beer and bourbon.

    I just downloaded him, @John Grizzly doing the Manta community a big favor.
     
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