Tanno
The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
If I have nothing to do these days, I'll call you in for a game, if you feel like it.Ok. ill add you. we could get some games on Tuesday or Wednesday evening this week.
If I have nothing to do these days, I'll call you in for a game, if you feel like it.Ok. ill add you. we could get some games on Tuesday or Wednesday evening this week.
There is a gap in b21 , they should have to interrupt it on purpose not get it for free cuz their not stand blockingDefinetely. It whiffs against Scorpion too. And Scorpion can full combo punish when it whiff. Maybe GMSZ can do that too.
And i think it is pretty fair.
Smoke's B21 is stupid.
I took the trouble to lab this B21. I know what you mean. There's a gap between the B2 and 1. And it's fairly noticeable, if you see Smoke getting away from the klone. If Smoke touches the Klone with B2, he gets frozen, so he needs to stay away from it. This is where you can protect yourself from the back attack.There is a gap in b21 , they should have to interrupt it on purpose not get it for free cuz their not stand blocking
the skydrop isnt armored and will get stuffed, and on the off occassion that it doesnt get stuffed it just drops him into clone before the hitbox connects with subI took the trouble to lab this B21. I know what you mean. There's a gap between the B2 and 1. And it's fairly noticeable, if you see Smoke getting away from the klone. If Smoke touches the Klone with B2, he gets frozen, so he needs to stay away from it. This is where you can protect yourself from the back attack.
Now I know why he has problems with being in the corner. He cannot smoke out (Fade away), because he might get frozen, so either he'll do the skydrop attack or just wallrun.
How's he broken? He may have great match ups but ever since I've switched to sungod vs GM hes not a threat to me.Obviously Grandmaster since it's beyond broken now.
Sungod vs Gm is in SG's favor imo. Pizza TRAVELS through ice klone for no bar. Full screen = sunray + sunstone + I build bar + you cant chip me. Idk how reliable it is but I armored command grab through klone one time when it spawned. I've yet to lose in the MUOh duh he never even crosses my mind as a legitimate threat so I forget BG is even a thing for Sub because nobody wants to try that. Kotal in general gets raped by Sub now.
Not sure if this is a troll, but Sun God gets annihilated by Grandmaster. 7-3 imoSungod vs Gm is in SG's favor imo. Pizza TRAVELS through ice klone for no bar. Full screen = sunray + sunstone + I build bar + you cant chip me. Idk how reliable it is but I armored command grab through klone one time when it spawned. I've yet to lose in the MU
There's the kounter for this Pizza. I kan serve you back a frozen pizza.Sungod vs Gm is in SG's favor imo. Pizza TRAVELS through ice klone for no bar. Full screen = sunray + sunstone + I build bar + you cant chip me. Idk how reliable it is but I armored command grab through klone one time when it spawned. I've yet to lose in the MU
What does GM have over sungod? Theres no reason to approach klone. Your reply is trolling if anything. Im contributing based off of experience and labing, how'd you figure 7-3?Not sure if this is a troll, but Sun God gets annihilated by Grandmaster. 7-3 imo
Every thread need more Kung Lao tbh.Thread needs more Kung Lao.
Only if you're Tekken Master.Oh kotals vari's wargod is the only one that stands a chance against sub
If your commiting to ice ball, thats slow as well and does no chip. That scenario could go either way. I can afford to waste bar on ex pizza to safely react to iceball or klone. From there is a sunray. Wheres your chip/offense while I heal? I can/will force you to make the next move while I collect full health if i play optimally. I've got armor grab, air grab, and xray to squash your advancements. Id accept 5-5 even but its not GM's MU. Next time I play a decent GM I'll upload it to kotal general discussion to visually show what im talking about. If anyone would like to challenge me steam/psn is on my profile. Im done for this is the wrong thread to debate pizzaThere's the kounter for this Pizza. I kan serve you back a frozen pizza.
This Pizza is so slow to make.
Thats where you get 7-3. Play the match up. You shouldnt be trying to kill GM. Get a decent chunk of health from him (1 ex sunstone) then keep full screen and heal. Use timer if you must... Just sayingSun God has no way through the ice clone other than EX Sunstone. Considering that they nerfed the block advantage, made Kotal's B1 a high, Sub has an amazing backdash AND gave Sub Zero a 7 frame d1, it's virtually impossible to lock Grandmaster down.
Grandmaster beat Sun God pre-patch, when Kotal was stronger as a whole. It's much worse now.
I play GM casually and ran into a Blood God who played the MU very well. He could turtle against GM and his normals outclassed Sub when I tried to run in. Might be different now but I think it's a MU worth looking intoOh kotals vari's wargod is the only one that stands a chance against sub
Of clone?you guys sure a well timed ex phase won't get em out?
It's not about the timing, it's about the spacing. Go into the lab and try to phase through the Klone. You have to be very close to it otherwise you get caught in your recovery. To get that precise with spacing is really not worth the risk of spending a bar to get punished and reset the situationyou guys sure a well timed ex phase won't get em out?
so the trick is to time it right when sub attacks then eh?Of clone?
Smoke can phase thru clone , the problem is if sub it right behind the clone then phase won't reach thru both sub and the clone and then he gets frozen while in recovery
Not really because ex phase doesn't go far enough and you will end up in the clone anyway , best thing to do with smoke is d1 subs b3/throw , njp the 12 ice burst and phase away to make the b2 whiff and try to get a d1so the trick is to time it right when sub attacks then eh?
they should make smokes f3 go thru projectiles/ice kloneNot really because ex phase doesn't go far enough and you will end up in the clone anyway , best thing to do with smoke is d1 subs b3/throw , njp the 12 ice burst and phase away to make the b2 whiff and try to get a d1
Nah but if b21 didn't whiff on sub it would be in smokes favorthey should make smokes f3 go thru projectiles/ice klone