Lol. Accepting the century of scientific evidence ratified by fossils, DNA, homologous structures, vestigial structures, comparative embryology, observable example of evolution, biogeography, molecular biology, paleontology and radiometric dating is, "sippin that Dawkin's Kool Aid"?
granted, those are all great achievements, I don't believe anyone has discovered how-matter-came-to-exist-from-nothingness-ology. that's the discovery athiests need.
Despite the "nothingness" part, why would Atheists need that discovery anyway?
well that would support the belief that there is no higher power, that we, and everything we know came about by pure chance, from nothingness. unless athiests also believe some form of matter has always existed, but I don't think that is the case. btw, I don't have anything against atheists, both sides of the argument have flaws (atleast from a scientific perspective)
Ok then you didn't understand my question. I never said Christianity encouraged suicide. I know Christianity is against it, every religion is against it. My question was, even though it's bad, won't you still go to heaven if you kill yourself? So why not kill yourself and go to heaven now?
ive had this discussion several times over the years and I must say, this is the first time ive heard this theory. I suppose it boils down to this: once upon a time there was nothing (void / empty space etc.) and then there was physical substance. you can either hypothesize that this was an act of a being with abilities beyond our comprehension, OR there is no higher power, whatever caused this big bang just poofed into existence, said "fuck your laws of science", then collided with another object that also happened exist, creating a chain reaction that in the end resulted in micro-organsisms evolving, growing 145,000,000,000 times their original size, and becoming highly intelligent beings among other things. and though that sounds slightly biased, in all reality they both sound pretty unlikely, yet here we are.......
There being an omnipotent being is the best explanation for the universe. And all you have to do is look around to figure that out.
You need not reveal your faith, when you've already so clearly revealed your ignorance of biology.
belief in god is not the ignorance of biology, its provides better reasoning than any scientific attempt to explain our existence ever has.
Have you ever considered that the morals we create are simply a means to an end, which is to help us survive? It is considered bad, wrong and not honorable to do many things because there are usually negative consequences to our actions. Do a bad thing like murder and the rest of society no longer trusts you and will want to either take revenge against you or confine you for their protection. Most religions further that thinking by promoting the idea that not only will you suffer for your bad actions while you live but also after you die.
This quote makes more/less sense than yours how?
because last time I saw a photo of earth, I didn't recall Atlas holding it up....
So you're saying... that belief in the gods of olympus makes less sense than believing in your God, because you don't see any physical evidence for olympus.. ?
Last time I saw man I didn't see them walking on water. Or last time I saw man I didn't see them turn 5 loaves and three fishes into enough food to feed 5 thousand. Or last time I saw water I did to see it turned into wine. Or last time I saw females I didn't see them miraculously get pregnant without sex/purposeful fertilisation. Why are the Greek myths any more cookey than the Christian ones?
This was actually posted earlier in this thread; but a belief in a god or omnipotent being actually complicates things further. How do you explain this God? Who created this God? Would this god be considered atheist, since it doesn't believe in a creator? How has this god always existed? Why couldn't the matter just always exist? Why bring in a god to further complicate things?
no, because the gods of Olympus have been undeniably disproven for a very long time. the whole principle behind Christianity is faith, if you don't want to believe in god, its easy not to, as you already know. but if you want to disprove gods existence, good luck..... and the flying spaghetti monster works both ways so that's not conclusive.
you mean you didn't live during jesus live span therefore all the recorded accounts of his life are invalid? jesus died.... atlas didn't just drop the earth and go into hiding in another galaxy......
Please show me the moment in history when the human race "disproved" the existence of Poseidon.
the very moment we polluted his oceans and he did nothing to stop it. and before you try to apply the same reasoning towards god, remember he watched his son die without intervening. according to the bible we are living in a period referred to as the Gentile Times, where god is allowing humanity to make its own decisions without his interference.
Your flogic is lawless. You won't believe in Poseidon because he didn't stop humans from polluting the oceans. But you believe in the death and resurrection of a man that was mentioned in a 2,000 year old book, never mentioned by any historians until 30 years after his supposed death.
if you are asking about my personal belief, then yes, I do. like billions before me. I cant remember the last person I met that still prayed to zeus.....
