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a sin is a sin me stealing is the same as me murdering someone.
a sin is a sin me stealing is the same as me murdering someone.
see this sounds extremely black and white... this is extremely dangerous and archaic thinking.... What if i steal from the rich to feed my starving family??? What if i murder to protect myself or my family??? each situation is different and to deal in ultimatums undermines the complexity of the human condition and decision making. I have my own moral code which i believe is much more rational and sound then this.
I might be engaging in "reductio ad absurdum" in this case, which is in itself a logical fallacy, but what if the interpretaiton of christianity is itself ludicruous and unfair???
hmm, well this whole thread certainly has got me laughing
This site needs MKX. Baaaaddddd
Why is it stupid? Please explain.
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It's something I found interesting and wanted to know the answer to.
So after going to local churches and searching extensively on the Internet, this is where you decided the answer would be? I can dig it.
Here's your answer: each sect has different beliefs. Catholics think you have to repent, protestants think you have to be a good person etc. All sects agree that killing yourself is a sin, and by most interpretations that means you couldn't get into Heaven.
Self destruction of the soul (suicide) will never, in any aspect, free your spirit. All religions believe this and so do all occults. Besides, they're probably only 1% of "true" Christians who follow the path of Jesus to to the T. All others are false believers. You know?! The ones who think they can cheat on their wife and steal as long as they go to church and repent for their sins. Furthermore, the third kind are the ones who try to live a good decent life while believing in an everlasting afterlife IMO. Although the bible and book of Revelations say that only Jesus has ascended to heaven. All others (living and dead) will be judged on the day of Atonement. Judgement day. I was born a Christian, but am agnostic now.
You have to remember the five steps to salvation: hear, believe, repent, be baptized, be faithful. They are have to repent and be baptized with the Holy Ghost to be able to recieve the forgiveness of sins. (Acts 2:38 KJV - "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.")
Those are more situational. It is more likely for you to recieve forgiveness if you killed to protect your family, than if, say, you killed for your own gain.
I don't really like black-and-white thinking either.
Is it a good idea to commit suicide so that you can exit this Earth and enter heaven? Nope.
Based on the Bible and doctrine, yes. For instance, someone who murdered another can repent and accept Christ, ask for forgiveness, be forgiven, and get into heaven. Meanwhile, someone who has lived a generally positive and good life, who has helped people, and never did anything wrong, can not get into heaven with their only "crime" being disbelief. It's pretty fucked up actually, and is the opposite of justice.
It's a stupid question because nowhere in any Christian or religious doctrine is suicide encouraged to get into heaven. In fact, it's actually actively discouraged.
Ok, just wanted to point out that atheists aren't the ones going door to door interrupting people trying to convert then, standing on corners spewing hate speech, walking around university campuses handing out pamphlets about god and the eternal punishment for not believing in him, killing people over different beliefs, using religion to justify bigotry, preventing proper science education, preventing proper sex education and access to condoms and actively campaigning against gay rights; but an atheist on a message board said something mean so they're more obnoxious.
I don't quite follow... How can homophobia be equated with being snobby or thinking you're better than someone else? One is the denial of rights to, discrimination against and harassment of gay people. The other is thinking you're better than some people and acting snobby.
