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At this point, is there any one person who thinks this game is balanced?

Ashesfall

"Feel the wrath of Shao Kahn"
No, it isn’t.
Leroy, Fakumram and a number of others don’t care about your meta. But, stay on brand, Davey.
Do you even play the game or do you live in the past repeating people?
fahk got nerfed so many times, I dropped him for bryan again.
worst sidestep isnt a good thing in tekken7
he got nerfed in patch 3.31,3.32,3.33 and 4.0. Do research and see how crazy he got nerfed.
Same goes to leroy. Everyone still saying both of them are broken, are real tekken scrubs ...
 

Zviko

Warrior
Do you even play the game or do you live in the past repeating people?
fahk got nerfed so many times, I dropped him for bryan again.
worst sidestep isnt a good thing in tekken7
he got nerfed in patch 3.31,3.32,3.33 and 4.0. Do research and see how crazy he got nerfed.
Same goes to leroy. Everyone still saying both of them are broken, are real tekken scrubs ...
Geras got nerfed many times too, somehow ended up stronger. :D
 

Gooberking

FGC Cannon Fodder
what? This is almost as crazy a take as that guy saying sf4 super balanced along with tekken 7. Balance honestly isnnt that important imo. If the game is fun just play it... People still out here playing the shit out of mvc2 and everyone should know that game's balance is well...lacking.
Yeah, how is it possible for someone not to like the darling game of the FGC? IDK, it's almost like people like different things in games, and not like games objectively suck because someone dislikes something about one of them. Maybe I'll just double down and go into Nicky's stream and explain to him why KI isn't good because I personally didn't like it and he should stop promoting it. I'm sure he'd appreciate my clout in the genera and the not quite 100hours I spent formulating my nebulous opinion on the game.

Yeah, I'm probably going to do that later. The people got to know
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
Do you even play the game or do you live in the past repeating people?
fahk got nerfed so many times, I dropped him for bryan again.
worst sidestep isnt a good thing in tekken7
he got nerfed in patch 3.31,3.32,3.33 and 4.0. Do research and see how crazy he got nerfed.
Same goes to leroy. Everyone still saying both of them are broken, are real tekken scrubs ...
Why would anyone keep playing that POS? Lol, you Tekken dickriders are something else. Been releasing the same game since Tekken 3, and been more and more janky ever since. Look at those fucking combat animations. Exact same for 20 years.
The discrepancy between the highest and lowest in T7 is bigger than the discrepancy in MK11. If you believe anything else, you just can’t resist that Japanese cock I guess.
 

Ashesfall

"Feel the wrath of Shao Kahn"
Geras got nerfed many times too, somehow ended up stronger. :D
His nerfs were minor but his sand trap breaks armor and that buffed him a lot.
So maybe this is why you think so.

mk11 nerfs in general feel very minor and slightly, in tekken7 they are drastic.

Why would anyone keep playing that POS? Lol, you Tekken dickriders are something else. Been releasing the same game since Tekken 3, and been more and more janky ever since. Look at those fucking combat animations. Exact same for 20 years.
The discrepancy between the highest and lowest in T7 is bigger than the discrepancy in MK11. If you believe anything else, you just can’t resist that Japanese cock I guess.
now your argues went to a real nice level mr asshole - weak
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
His nerfs were minor but his sand trap breaks armor and that buffed him a lot.
So maybe this is why you think so.

mk11 nerfs in general feel very minor and slightly, in tekken7 they are drastic.


now your argues went to a real nice level mr asshole - weak
I’m an asshole, AND I’m right.
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
His nerfs were minor but his sand trap breaks armor and that buffed him a lot.
So maybe this is why you think so.

mk11 nerfs in general feel very minor and slightly, in tekken7 they are drastic.


now your argues went to a real nice level mr asshole - weak
Also, using the argument that characters are constantly getting tons of drastic patches is not a good way to argue that the game is balanced.
Lol, wtf.
 

Ashesfall

"Feel the wrath of Shao Kahn"
Also, using the argument that characters are constantly getting tons of drastic patches is not a good way to argue that the game is balanced.
Lol, wtf.
of course it is ... balance the strong and the weak. this is how it works ... what else, let me know
(stuff that was safe is unsafe, stuff that launched on counter does nothing on counter, nerf movement etc.)

edit: you know why they were so drastic? the community was crying like crazy ...
 
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Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
of course it is ... balance the strong and the weak. this is how it works ... what else, let me know
(stuff that was safe is unsafe, stuff that launched on counter does nothing on counter, nerf movement etc.)

edit: you know why they were so drastic? the community was crying like crazy ...
They are drastic and numerous because the game was a janky pos at launch, and still is.
You just enjoy the flavor of Nippon.
 

Chernyy Volk

Wolf lord, footsie bully, chronic corner abuser.
Imo having those comeback factors is what really makes the game feels like im not playing an uphill battle for picking a character that gets completely destroyed by other which makes every single character in the game usable at some extent, and imo that is a good thing
I understand this but you gotta realize that is happening for reasons that aren't good. Your opponent shouldn't be intimidated because you're losing and the game handed you a free 30% armored move that in some cases, literally fundamentally alters the way the game is played. Your opponent should be afraid of you because of your skill, your character and what they're good at etc. The problem is, as all American fighting game studios besides Iron Galaxy can't seem to figure out, is NRS are typical dumb Americans who don't understand balance concepts and lovingly crafting a game with the kind of depth we think this game lacks in mind. They like instant gratification shortcut measures instead.

Like, in another fighting game, ALMOST ANY OTHER ONE ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW, you wouldn't be feeling like you need fatal blow. At least I hope you wouldn't.
 

Chernyy Volk

Wolf lord, footsie bully, chronic corner abuser.
No, it isn’t.
Leroy, Fakumram and a number of others don’t care about your meta. But, stay on brand, Davey.
I don't think you actually pay attention to Tekken tournament results or player to character statistics. Tekken 7 has more viable characters than MK11 for sure. Leroy and Fakrumrham don't even have the highest character win rate in the fucking game. It's GIGAS OF ALL CHARACTERS.
 

Chernyy Volk

Wolf lord, footsie bully, chronic corner abuser.
Are you F'ing stupid? Let me explain jailing to you scrub. If I am plus 16 on hit, and use an 11 frame mid - you are jailed. If I am plus 3 on hit and use an 11 frame mid you are not jailed. THIS IS THE ONLY GAME WHERE YOU CAN STEAL YOUR TURN BACK ON JAILS BECAUSE OF FLAWLESS BLOCK. ARMOR NEVER DID THIS.

You gotta love when scrubs come on here and pretend they know FGC terminology. Gamefaqs is calling your name dude.
These people are legit sub humans dawg. They don't actually remember these things correctly. I still have a copy of the ORIGINAL MKX, I might get a video with the unpatched version and show the bitching about armor was completely wrong. I mean, I DIDN'T LIKE IT, but a lot of the complaints about it are obviously just incorrect.
 

Swindle

Philanthropist & Asshole
I don't think you actually pay attention to Tekken tournament results or player to character statistics. Tekken 7 has more viable characters than MK11 for sure. Leroy and Fakrumrham don't even have the highest character win rate in the fucking game. It's GIGAS OF ALL CHARACTERS.
No one cares.
NO ONE CARES.
Tekken has been the same game for almost 20 years. People love it because it doesn’t evolve, and people hate it because it doesn’t evolve. You can only play the game one way, and whenever a character goes outside that box, they are called broken and nerfed until they play that one way. It’s boring to play if you’ve played from T3 on, and it’s actually embarrassing to watch with those terrible ancient strike, hit, spin, launch, juggle and fall animations.
people can like what they like, but let’s not pretend that Tekken is a great game. Strip away all the useless mechanics and moves, of which there are a shitload, and the game is the most basic of bitches.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
I don't think you actually pay attention to Tekken tournament results or player to character statistics. Tekken 7 has more viable characters than MK11 for sure. Leroy and Fakrumrham don't even have the highest character win rate in the fucking game. It's GIGAS OF ALL CHARACTERS.
Did...did you just use online character rankings to argue that?
 

Ilthuain

Lost in a labyrinth of egoism
This is literally statistically not true. I think you guys keep confusing power level for balance. These two things have nothing to do with each other.
Please explain the differences between "power level" and "balance" in regard to a competitive game.