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Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
AspyxiaDyslexia- said:
I know right...
Lex is actually good... Or at least i have played players that use him at the high level and he can be a beast... Just need to explote his mechanics
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Lex is viable from full screen. When you get in close, not so much. The buff to his d.2 is nice though, but his wake-ups are worse than Ares and that's saying something.

But lord forbid he gets an orb out from full screen, you might as well put down the controller because you aren't doing shit for the rest of the game.
 
Zyphox

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
A F0xy Grampa said:
Not all mids in this game are true mids, and the flash is no exception, so he doesn't deserve to have his 'fixed' over anybody elses.
Supermans F23 isnt a true mid either, neither is WW's B1, Sinestro 223/B12 or NWs Scatterbomb etc etc.
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do these so called mids whiff randomly just by crouching? with the flash on about 75% of the characters for no apparent reason b22f3 last hit is two hits, and the last hit whiffs for no reason, f23 to my knowledge hits every when they are crouching, am not saying that it whiffs if they do a low profile move, am mean literally just crouching. i'll make a video on the whiffing even in the freakin corner so that i can frame trap them into a vortex situation.
 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Doombawkz said:
Lex is viable from full screen. When you get in close, not so much. The buff to his d.2 is nice though, but his wake-ups are worse than Ares and that's saying something.
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Ohh yes he is very good at full screen, but as you said... One in he is not that good, but he has potential... Not like to has his own tier tho
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
AspyxiaDyslexia- said:
Ohh yes he is very good at full screen, but as you said... One in he is not that good, but he has potential... Not like to has his own tier tho
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I agree with that, honestly I like him more than the joker because j.3 hold dat. I feel there are no "solo tier" characters in this game. I'd put probably joker and ares at the bottom of B, Shazam, Bane, and Lex in the same area as eachother towards middle-top B.
 
GGA Max

GGA Max

Well-Known Member
Doombawkz said:
I'm not being modest, pretty much everyone considers you to be the top dog.

Not really, I used to go to melee tourneys and I usually got out of pools with my IC. I'm used to the scene, but I'm still trying to get over a few jitters, namely my seeming inability to remember to use my better reset tools and command grabs. I also have this weird tendency to drop combos, but that's more me mistaking my spacing than anything. This is my first tourney since..... I think 2004 or 2005.

With the note of SSB being my main thing in tourneys, I also did a bit of SF in 2008 but I never got out of pools with my gief barring a few locals.
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That's really good, lots of experience. Sounds like you should have your nerves under control.

I expect you'll be running into lots of Superman players, possibly his worst MU IMO.
 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
Doombawkz said:
I agree with that, honestly I like him more than the joker because j.3 hold dat. I feel there are no "solo tier" characters in this game. I'd put probably joker and ares at the bottom of B, Shazam, Bane, and Lex in the same area as eachother towards middle-top B.
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Ohh yes... But Joker is hype! I have a friend that is the best Joker on PSN... Trust me... He does godlike setups... Litteraly great set ups <3 i like the Joker thanks to him
 
EMPRESS_SunFire

EMPRESS_SunFire

Regina George of discord
k1nG_Qu1nN said:
Every Tier list goes as shows.
S and A Tier: Brain dead easy characters that any noob can pick up and spam the same combos over and over.
B Tier: Good but you have to have some skill to play them.
C and D Tier: Characters that are slept on due to unpopularity and/or kinda hard to use.
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Wonder Woman is not easy to pick up o.o and she is well balanced! My favorite S tier character so far :D she is actually hype, not as all the other S tiers
 
JaredL

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
k1nG_Qu1nN said:
Every Tier list goes as shows.
S and A Tier: Brain dead easy characters that any noob can pick up and spam the same combos over and over.
B Tier: Good but you have to have some skill to play them.
C and D Tier: Characters that are slept on due to unpopularity and/or kinda hard to use.
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Its not about ease of use. Its simply down to how many bad match ups they have.

Superman and black adam have very few bad match ups. Why? Because of their tools. THerefore, they are top tier.

Shazam has probably 1 winning match up, with the rest being either losing or 5-5. That makes him C tier.
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
rev0lver said:
Yes he is.... I'm not going to just zone you with Lex unless you're Catwoman or something lol. A lot of his up close game is based around the trait which is gdlk.
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Are there any high-level lex videos anywhere? You've peaked my curiosity.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
JaredL said:
Its not about ease of use. Its simply down to how many bad match ups they have.

Superman and black adam have very few bad match ups. Why? Because of their tools. THerefore, they are top tier.

Shazam has probably 1 winning match up, with the rest being either losing or 5-5. That makes him C tier.
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1 winning MU? I don't think so. He has about as many winning MUs as Catwoman does. He just has a few more bad ones.
 
k1nG_Qu1nN

k1nG_Qu1nN

The King
JaredL said:
Its not about ease of use. Its simply down to how many bad match ups they have.

Superman and black adam have very few bad match ups. Why? Because of their tools. THerefore, they are top tier.

Shazam has probably 1 winning match up, with the rest being either losing or 5-5. That makes him C tier.
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I stand by my statement. You're a Shazam player? So of course you're saying he has 1 winning MU. You want buffs lol.
 
JaredL

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Doombawkz said:
1 winning MU? I don't think so. He has about as many winning MUs as Catwoman does. He just has a few more bad ones.
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He arguably beats Batman, because Batman has some of the worst wake up games in the game and thus, Shapzams wake up shenanigans actually work.

If you can chime in on some other winning match ups, go ahead.
 
StevoSuprem0

StevoSuprem0

I'm gonna make this skill gap... disappear.
general m2dave said:
Well, I would like to know who else is advocating zoning in this game aside from me. Some players in this community like Perfect Legend are rush down zealots who want to get in with a teleport and apply instant offense. They cannot win a major tournament without pre-patch Scorpion, so they mistakenly bash me for normalizing the character.
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I think PL's play will be able to speak for itself (I'll say outright that I'm not a fan of his, nor Scorpion, but he's a solid player); no one should be evaluated based on their first few performances alone in a fighting game. People pick things up at different rates.
As far as zoning goes, I straight up hate it. I think hybrid characters that can zone a little if they need to but also do well up close are more entertaining to watch, more interesting to play as, and better for the game as a whole. Zoning leads to a lot of counterpicking which I'm not a fan of. That's my opinion, and clearly is not in sync with yours. The reason everyone gets annoyed with you is the fact that you don't take other peoples opinions seriously at all; they either share yours or they are wrong. Need to admit that not everything is known yet and leave it there rather than telling everyone they're dumb and you know everything when you haven't really even demonstrated any aptitude in this game yet.
 
k1nG_Qu1nN

k1nG_Qu1nN

The King
Before CEO I could be complaining about Harley is shit bottom Tier and needs to be buffed but I never was nor will I ever be. Because I know we haven't even touched the surface of this game in terms of characters and match ups. That being said. All of you who are complaining saying your character is bottom tier. Go to the lab and fix it. Unless they are actually broken and unusable they are NOT bottom tier.

Edit. Bottom Tier Bottom Tier Bottom Tier Bottom Tier Bottom Tier.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
JaredL said:
He arguably beats Batman, because Batman has some of the worst wake up games in the game and thus, Shapzams wake up shenanigans actually work.

If you can chime in on some other winning match ups, go ahead.
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He beats Ares because of wake-ups, Lex as well because he can just tele through the minefield. IMO he has one over on joker, but that's just me. Theres also the arguable beats scorp post-patch as well, and lobo has a bad time against him.
 
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