Jon Berg
Mortal
Thats a given.How about we just buff Lobo
Thats a given.How about we just buff Lobo
HawkGirl's play style is unique and is not worthy of any form of mocking. Why are you advocating for a nerf? Don't you play as HG, lol? Look, if they made her MC like Zod's her mid screen/neutral game would be fucked. Mace Charge isn't just for escaping the corner and for wake up's, it's her single most effective line of offense. Her recovery on Mace Toss is terrible and her zoning is mediocre; I'm actually starting to find her ground game far better and her rush down would be significantly threatened if they made it full punishable.First of all I didn't mean to put it in comparative form. I was more implying my footage and yours look identical, which is actually exactly how what I wrote reads. Was more mocking the Hawkgirl playstyle. And if its nerfed anymore, she would just have to adapt and use we3 and dashing, which isnt a problem. I think having her MC function the same was a Zod's charge would be fine. That wouldnt' change her getaway game at all and lets be real, every character can use a little change in regards to the wakeup system. She has a huge array of overheads, and a safe low string that combos into big damage in the corner, so could definitely be worse there.
No doubt she would have to be buffed in other areas, but I think it would create a more enjoyable kit to not only play, but play against.
From an ALLEGED HawkGirl player at that! Hmmm...Wow some one is actually bitching about mace charge
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True, I guess, but what you are suggesting is stupid. I'm not saying you are stupid, but it would only hurt her game, which is, well, stupid.Well, I have about 2000 games and literally 1800 of them are HG so no undercover action here. And I don't advocate it being punishable as much as making its recovery longer and making it so you don't get pushed so far back. I think that is more what should be done. Just because I play the character doesn't mean I shouldn't look at it objectively.
True, I guess, but what you are suggesting is stupid. I'm not saying you are stupid, but it would only hurt her game, which is, well, stupid.
Wow...brain dead and shallow? How so? What buffs would you suggest? So nerfing her Mace Charge would make her more interesting? Innovative? Contrary to your opinion of HawkGirl's "brain dead" and "shallow" play style, I think she takes work and skill to pull out victories...unlike half the cast.No doubt it would hurt her game. I think she should be buffed in other areas. How braindead easy and shallow she is to play is well, stupid.
Wow...brain dead and shallow? How so? What buffs would you suggest? So nerfing her Mace Charge would make her more interesting? Innovative? Contrary to your opinion of HawkGirl's "brain dead" and "shallow" play style, I think she takes work and skill to pull out victories...unlike half the cast.
What an insult to the HG community who work hard with what we were given...
It's an insult because it would hurt the character's core footsy tool. It doesn't matter what you've done in the lab or what guides you may have wrote, you are asking for the character to be nerfed, WHICH IS ABSURD. She is limited to begin with...why on Earth would you want an even bigger handicap? It's also insulting that you claim her to be brain dead and shallow...THUS making our wins with HawkGirl in vein.How is that an insult when I have done the same lab tech, and even written a 20,000 word noob guide on the character? I'm just voicing my opinion. I think its easier to succeed with HG compared to basically the entire cast. You can get very far with very few tools. Its clear NRS is capable of extending hitboxes of normal's as evidenced by d2, so adjusting her T-Rex range is a start.
I also asked for her other areas to be buffed which you appear have casually glanced over and ignored. And how does that make wins less meaningful? Every game has some things that are simpler and some that are more complex. Like Invoker in dota compared to Sven.It's an insult because it would hurt the character's core footsy tool. It doesn't matter what you've done in the lab or what guides you may have wrote, you are asking for the character to be nerfed, WHICH IS ABSURD. She is limited to begin with...why on Earth would you want an even bigger handicap? It's also insulting that you claim her to be brain dead and shallow...THUS making our wins with HawkGirl in vein.
You originally only mentioned nerfing Mace Charge, then a HawkGirl player corrected you and stated that if they did that they would have to seriously buff her. Only after that you started to mention other buffs...thus the reasoning for my direct response to your original idea; the nerfing of Mace Charge. I didn't ignore nor glance over the fact that you want her reach to be extended...that's kind of a mute point considering your original suggestion was to FURTHER nerf mace charge. You stating that the character is "brain dead" and "shallow" is why I said a statement like that makes our hard work and wins taken in vein. Let's not get it twisted...shall we?I also asked for her other areas to be buffed which you appear have casually glanced over and ignored. And how does that make wins less meaningful? Every game has some things that are simpler and some that are more complex. Like Invoker in dota compared to Sven.
Your friends memory seems questionable ...I'd like to see this...we just gotta find out what tournament PL won before CEO and find the archive.So, a friend of mine told me there was actually an amazing HG player that was a tournament that happened before CEO, but he doesn't remember the name of the tournament, or the name of the players. Apparently this tournament was also won by PL. Anybody got videos of it?
More details from same friend:Your friends memory seems questionable ...I'd like to see this...we just gotta find out what tournament PL won before CEO and find the archive.
Can you produce this alleged tournament's stream link?More details from same friend:
-Alucard was there with his brother
-PL played scorp
-There was a very very good GL player.
Haven't watched the second one yet, I've have noticed that you seem to favor holding onto meter a lot, though this may just be because Jaku isn't able to force you to use it?Last night's set with Jaku2011's Lobo
LOL I think I do actually win a match with super...maybe in the second set. Yeah, I'm stingy with meter, however sometimes I let lose with MB Mace Toss, especially when the clock is ticking..Haven't watched the second one yet, I've have noticed that you seem to favor holding onto meter a lot, though this may just be because Jaku isn't able to force you to use it?
I keep wanting you to finish lifebars with super lol.