Guide Shazam BnBs may 2013

[Johnny2d]

This seemed like really useful tech at first, but after testing it in practice, you can just tech roll out of the setup. How do you deal with that?

Yeah they can roll, if they don't its a nasty trick though. If they do roll you are back to what ever sort of mixup you want to go for including baiting and punishing wakeups. So, its not game breaking tech.

The point I was trying to make is that you get this same setup off of a d3, which is a hard knockdown. Dash in and neutral jump and its 50/50 what side the hard punch hits on. Its hard to block and hard to know which direction to do the wakeup attack to beat it.

 

[rubmytaco]

Yeah they can roll, if they don't its a nasty trick though. If they do roll you are back to what ever sort of mixup you want to go for including baiting and punishing wakeups. So, its not game breaking tech.

The point I was trying to make is that you get this same setup off of a d3, which is a hard knockdown. Dash in and neutral jump and its 50/50 what side the hard punch hits on. Its hard to block and hard to know which direction to do the wakeup attack to beat it.

Sorry about that then. Must've missed that. Good stuff though Will have to take this to the lab.

 

[JaredL]

Best combos after a J1/J2/J3 air to air trade?

In my experience, the best thing to do is: J1(air), F12, HM ex, B3, J2, D3
Alternatively, for more damge: J1, F12, HM ex, B3, J2, 11 HM

 

[iShinnok03]

Best combos after a J1/J2/J3 air to air trade?

In my experience, the best thing to do is: J1(air), F12, HM ex, B3, J2, D3
Alternatively, for more damge: J1, F12, HM ex, B3, J2, 11 HM

A2A 3 xx HM MB B3 J3 2 xx HM = 39%/41%/45%

 

[JaredL]

A2A 3 HM MB B3 J3 2 HM = 39%/41%/45%

Didn't even know 3 had a use.

Nice stuff.

 

[iShinnok03]

Didn't even know 3 had a use.

Nice stuff.

3 is really good actually, 3 xx trait is safe lol.

 

[JaredL]

3 is really good actually, 3 xx trait is safe lol.

On hit or block?

 

[iShinnok03]

On hit or block?

Both.

 

[JaredL]

Both.

Nice stuff.

Oh and if you know, what is the timing on this combo:

Trait, ex HM, B3, J3, 112 torpedo

Does 48% and I've done it once, but I notice it depends on the timing of the J3. Any advice?

 

[iShinnok03]

Nice stuff.

Oh and if you know, what is the timing on this combo:

Trait, ex HM, B3, J3, 112 torpedo

Does 48% and I've done it once, but I notice it depends on the timing of the J3. Any advice?

Try to hit J3 the lowest to the ground as possible.

 

[JaredL]

Try to hit J3 the lowest to the ground as possible.

Ahh I figured it out. You're right.

You have to get the J3 to hit them on the head, so, its hitting them down in a way, instead of hitting them from the up.

 

[iShinnok03]

New combos just because:

F223 AC MB 3 xx HM MB B3 J2 2 xx HM = 47% [54%]
F223 3 xx HM MB B3 J3 2 xx AC MB 12 xx HM = 48% [60%]
HM MB J3 2 bounce B3 J3 xx AC MB 12 xx HM = 49% [61%]
F3/B3 J3 3 xx HM MB J3 2 xx AC MB 12 xx HM = 50% [63%]
F223 xx B3 MB J3 J2 1 xx AC MB 12 xx HM MB J3 HM = 50% [65%] So not worth it, but stylish as fuck

Epic corner combo:

J3 3 xx AC MB 3 xx HM MB J3 2 HM = 55% [62%]

 

[pogse]

F223 - d2 - (walk a bit)d3 kinda great if you don't have meter as a reversal combo punish

 

[Ronald]

Good stuff everyone
I haven't been through the entire thread but here is the 1 bar mid screen f223 combo I use -
f223, HMmb, b3, ji2, f223, HM. - 38%

 

[iShinnok03]

Good stuff everyone
I haven't been through the entire thread but here is the 1 bar mid screen f223 combo I use -
f223, HMmb, b3, ji2, f223, HM. - 38%

Best to use F22 - HM MB B3 J3 2 xx HM for 42% if you're going for max damage.

 

[Ronald]

Best to use F22 - HM MB B3 J3 2 xx HM for 42% if you're going for max damage.

Yeah that's true but using f223 makes it easier to hit confirm for me in a real match.

 

[Shawi]

Good stuff everyone
I haven't been through the entire thread but here is the 1 bar mid screen f223 combo I use -
f223, HMmb, b3, ji2, f223, HM. - 38%

Yea pretty standard stuff, but i find the HM tricky to get after the f223. So if i use f223, i use 2 ACmb 22 HM - works all the time every time.

 

[pogse]

f223 - d2 - walk a bit(just a bit) - f223 HM = 27% meterless
ji2 - f223 - d2 - walk a bit(just a bit) - f223 HM = 31%

 

[Uber]

So whats everyone doing on their D2 combos?

When i catch them in the air, im doing:
D2, J2, 3xxHM MB, B3, J3, D3 - 30%

Off the ground i find landing 3 after J2 very inconsistent, so im doing :
D2, J2, 1xxAC MB, 2xxAC - 25%

I feel like the second one is sub-optimal

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[pogse]

So whats everyone doing on their D2 combos?

When i catch them in the air, im doing:
D2, J2, 3xxHM MB, B3, J3, D3 - 30%

Off the ground i find landing 3 after J2 very inconsistent, so im doing :
D2, J2, 1xxAC MB, 2xxAC - 25%

I feel like the second one is sub-optimal

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d2-j2-22hm or d2-walk-22-at just to do damage. still not used to d2 timing as anti-air.
but if clean anti air d2-b3-ji3-f223-hm.

edit: still doing air to airs

 

[Shawi]

So whats everyone doing on their D2 combos?

d2, pause HMmb b3 ji2 f223 HM

Gotta be spot on to get it - but it works

 

[Li1mightymouse]

Was playing a decent batman online that I normally played before the patch. His j3 and such got me every time and there wasn't shit I could do, he would hope around like a got damn jack rabbit. Now with the patch my d2 DOMINATES Batman's jump ins, and not just his Batmans, but ANYONES Batman I've encountered online has been dominated by my d2. What's up with that??? I feel like I've shut down Batman's entire game, every Batman has been trying to out zone me now LOL.

 

[Shawi]

Hahaha to be honest he really should have been outzoning you from the start. Yeah batman's ji2 and 3 before patch pretty much beat all d2's but not I guess you get to learn how to get in on zoners.

 

[Li1mightymouse]

Hahaha to be honest he really should have been outzoning you from the start. Yeah batman's ji2 and 3 before patch pretty much beat all d2's but not I guess you get to learn how to get in on zoners.

You got me all wrong, I feel Batman trying to zone Shazam is a joke. I think it's funny though how I use to fight Batmans and all they did was, "LOL YOLO J2 J3 ALL DAY SHAZAM CAN'T DO S*(&" Now they try to zone me and I go, " LOL TELEPORT FULL COMBO PUNISH"

 

[Shawi]

You got me all wrong, I feel Batman trying to zone Shazam is a joke. I think it's funny though how I use to fight Batmans and all they did was, "LOL YOLO J2 J3 ALL DAY SHAZAM CAN'T DO S*(&" Now they try to zone me and I go, " LOL TELEPORT FULL COMBO PUNISH"

hmmmmmm I actually find it tough to get in on a batman zoner. Batarangs (up and straight), bats (with good bat management - shout outs to tom brady lol), grapple, mb versions and his almighty b23, can make it really tough for Shazam. Teleport just gets stuffed by bats if you manage to get past a batarang and that can lead to full combo on hit.

oh and maybe your sig text size isn't big enough