I wouldn't say bad but he has holes in his gameplay. His overhead string f21 can be ducked and punished on block, his EX LC can be ducked and punished on block, b22f3 sometimes whiff on crouch block, seeing any patterns yet? Crouching really does hurt this character and all of his "mids" whiff at one time or another and will get punished if the player knows the matchup. I'm not saying he's bottom 5 but if they fixed his mid hitting strings he would be sooooo much better.
F213 doesn't need to be used, Just F2-LK
I don't use F213 anymore but my point was that if his mids were fixed we wouldn't have to worry about this problem. Like I said he's a good character definitely not the best and definitely not the worst. Good enough to win a tournament alone? That remains to be seen but I'd like to think it's possible.
see that why i hate to say it but something advanced that i have been doing is f21 sonic pound MB, it makes it so if my back was towards the wall or a few dash from the wall, i can now switch positions using this combo and put them in the corner, where ever flash player wants to be. BUT since 1) f21 is a shit string and 2) f2 sonic pound won't give me the results i am loooking 4, if they block it am done. not saying "oh i want everything for free" blah blah blah, but if they were to fix his damn "mid" hitting string this would make so much sense. i do 58% and set up a corner "OTG" or wake up attack bait, or wait for them to get up and use b22 sonic pound MB for cross up or whatever. i strongly believe that if they fix his "Mids" he would jump up a tier literally. 11 is a mid 7+ on block? that would be huge to set up, that a free d1 in the corner, not if there ducking and react to your shitty overhead that you have to do f2 LK and now you have to be at - frames. i can't wait for them to fix the hitboxes on mids.
you dont know much about this game if you think supermans zoning is good and that black adam should be divekicking all day.
You were saying what stops superman and BA who zoning and divekick flash and what flash has to stop that. that is talking about matchups if you're new to fighting games.
the answer to that question is no for all but a handful of characters
BA Lightning can be jumped on reaction, so at least you close distance and take no damage. Black Magic is a risk on BA's part since it is so punishable, though he can use it full screen with no real worry. I think the main problem in this MU is that BA matches you in damage but completely out footsies Flash and has better mobility/air control. Plus him being a power character vs a Acro doesn't help
Yes please we(I) need to see more great flash play. Getting used to Flash online is tough but a nice endeavor, constant 50/50 is great, but I need to get rid of online warrior habits like full screen lighting charge.
There are 10 threads about it, just read them. You don't give a fuck about tier list but you really should. People like dizzy would prefer using their secondary like aquaman, BA or batgirl in major than the Flash which is considered by this kommunauty (and not only "flash kommu") as a non viable top 8 char.
you do know how piss easy it is to backdash or duck supermans lasers and get a free dash, right? he cant even chip with them if you have the lifelead. f23 is 8. you dont have to block supermans zoning.
since when did flash need execution? footsies are REQUIRED by all pure rushdown characters, look at cage in mk9.
he's talking about LK cancels in the neutral game to build meter, i only use rarely but will start to more often if am low on meter. so if you 3/4 the screen away and you're not getting zoned out, you can LK xx dash forwards by canceling it and gaining meter for it.
how do you know someone isn't already playing flash with good footsies and all the stuff you are saying? i would play you but i believe we are region locked, and online wouldn't do our match any justice. i know exactly how to play the flash, I've gotten help from tom brady, crazy domincan, dragon god, ect ect from ect 5 and next level, vsm. my point is this character is 1) at the core of this game not a top 10 character, yet. 2) the required footsies requires a LOT of knowledge about every single character in the game, that means that a great flash player need this game to be steady so he can learn the MU, get in depth on the other characters options and find ways to get past them or take advantage of them. this character is the opposite of braindead and has to work very hard in a lot of MU. you can't just pick him up like GL or superman and just control the pace of the game against 75% of the cast. there is almost no MU in this game where the flash controls the pace unless he has a sizeable life lead where zoning isn't doing much. only against bane, lobo, shazam, maybe grundy can the flash dictate the pace. with backdash in this game as well as push block which NO ONE uses properly, smart zoning and the flashes footies tools being 15 frames and slower, its hard for the character to get in. the trade off is one wiff punish, one mix up with trait leads to 60% bnb's. but its like cyrax, don't get hit. how many tournaments did cyrax win?