I Am Gotham's Reckoning -- Bane General Discussion Thread

[Doombawkz]

I would hope so but a lot of them got away with murder in the past updates IMO.

To be fair, KF ate a decent sized nerf to her 50/50 guessing game. Huehuehuehue

 

[Error]

As Bane gets buffed and high tiers get nerfed Bane players can only rejoice and pump more. venom

 

[Hiryu02]

Pardon me, this is off the Scorpion patch? Are there official patch notes or is this testing-only.

 

[jfunkey]

It seems like the way to go, or what i've been doing recently is double punch with 1 and 2 venom and when you get up to 3 venom you should f.2d instead

 

[Doombawkz]

Pardon me, this is off the Scorpion patch? Are there official patch notes or is this testing-only.

testing only atm

 

[LEGI0N47]

To be fair, KF ate a decent sized nerf to her 50/50 guessing game. Huehuehuehue

Yeah I saw that. But they are master downplayers too, just saying.

 

[big_aug]

Superman got nerfed too?

 

[Doombawkz]

Superman got nerfed too?

Technically everyone except us did, since we didn't rely on OTG set-ups before per se. We relied on force stands, which weren't touched, and meaty set-ups which have benefitted from what it looks like honestly.

 

[jfunkey]

We also got techinally buffed where we can wakeup uppercut/double punch out of most pressure now

 

[Doombawkz]

Also our double punch is neutral on guard (A.K.A. everyone but supes are unable to punish it) and +23 frames of on-hit advantage, with what looks like a better upwards reach (hits about f.3 distance above our heads instead of just at head level)

 

[Hiryu02]

If the DP buff is true Bane just gained an armored stepkick replacement. Salt is gonna flow.

 

[Doombawkz]

Yeah I saw that. But they are master downplayers too, just saying.

yeah, it was all a fraudulent ruse.

Still, no otg slide is decent enough.

 

[PunkMafia83]

So apart from the wake up changes, nothing new added. Okay interesting.

 

[Hiryu02]

Was there any additional info on the Double Punch change?

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

Technically everyone except us did, since we didn't rely on OTG set-ups before per se. We relied on force stands, which weren't touched, and meaty set-ups which have benefitted from what it looks like honestly.

Wait, so I don't understand their wake-up on frame 1 change means. Does that mean it is EASIER to do wake-up attacks now? Doesn't that make a lot of our throw setups weaker? I don't see how this doesn't hurt Bane unless the change only applies to wake-up off a tech roll.

 

[chief713]

Everything should still work the same functionally. The CPU has always been able to wake up correctly, so any setup you created/tested in training mode on the dummy should still work on actual people.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

So to summarize this patch:
Double punch is neutral on block
Wake-up attacks are NOT easier to do and we should just ignore the frame 1 wake-up change they made because it means nothing?

 

[chief713]

Double punch was probably always neutral on block. They just fixed the frame data. And unless you developed meaty setups with a friend and never tested them and confirmed that they also work on the CPU in training mode, then yea, you can pretty much ignore that change too.

 

[Dulllyanna]

Wait, so I don't understand their wake-up on frame 1 change means. Does that mean it is EASIER to do wake-up attacks now? Doesn't that make a lot of our throw setups weaker? I don't see how this doesn't hurt Bane unless the change only applies to wake-up off a tech roll.

There was a frame where you technically do a wakeup attack but wasn't considered invincible to lows, so low meaties could stuff all wakeups.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

There was a frame where you technically do a wakeup attack but wasn't considered invincible to lows, so low meaties could stuff all wakeups.

Oh no... no more meaty low setups! To be fair, it was a bug, and it should be fixed. I'll live through it.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

Also our double punch is neutral on guard (A.K.A. everyone but supes are unable to punish it) and +23 frames of on-hit advantage, with what looks like a better upwards reach (hits about f.3 distance above our heads instead of just at head level)

Is this confirmed? I can't seem to gauge the hitbox change. I can't tell are you being sarcastic about saying neutral on block, only to then say punishable by Superman.

 

[chief713]

I dunno about the hitbox change, but the frame data says very clearly that DP is 0 on block. However, it is very possible for Superman to super it. So either the data is wrong and DP is -2 or more or Superman's super is 0 frames lol.

 

[_CHINOCUDEIRO_]

I dunno about the hitbox change, but the frame data says very clearly that DP is 0 on block. However, it is very possible for Superman to super it. So either the data is wrong and DP is -2 or more or Superman's super is 0 frames lol.

Superman´s Super starts before the player even think to do it . It´s -5 on startup

 

[Doombawkz]

Is this confirmed? I can't seem to gauge the hitbox change. I can't tell are you being sarcastic about saying neutral on block, only to then say punishable by Superman.

It's neutral on block but CPU superman can punish almost everything with super

 

[UltraDavid]

If they just rewrote some of the numbers in the in-game frame data I wouldn't be surprised. I've thought that some of Bane's data seemed miswritten anyway, it always seemed kinda fishy to me. After double punch is blocked, I've mashed down+1 and beaten normal attacks from the opponent. That shouldn't happen if double punch is -5 and down+1 has 11 startup frames even if the opponent hesitates to press a button for a few frames.