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LEGI0N47

I like to play bad characters
F23 is faster than everything you have. It takes a single F23 for him to get his trait out safely, and then, its just a matter of wrecking you.
Yup. Good Superman players if you get in on them and miss will F23 you all day and it sucks, especially if they get you and bust out that trait. Also watch for the scoop. I hate fighting superman.

The only reason I'm able to compete with a lot of Batman players is because most i've come accross love to jump at you. But he's still not easy.
 
It's true. Superman is friggin' horrible. When people pick him it's just...oh god, here we go. Absolutely brain-dead stuff that I can see coming and STILL have trouble doing anything about.
 

LEGI0N47

I like to play bad characters
It's true. Superman is friggin' horrible. When people pick him it's just...oh god, here we go. Absolutely brain-dead stuff that I can see coming and STILL have trouble doing anything about.
LOL Same here, and I still fail far too often. The Batmans are much more unpredictable.
 

Khaoz77

Don't run, you're gonna trip...
Currently, I am having trouble with the Catwoman matchup. Her combos hurt like hell and she is very frustrating to catch. I constantly have to chase after her and she can Claw me for free if I dash or jump. I have made some progress with getting her into the corner and making her my bitch, but when she is out of the corner, its back to the chasing. What can I do to lock her down on the middle on the screen?
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Currently, I am having trouble with the Catwoman matchup. Her combos hurt like hell and she is very frustrating to catch. I constantly have to chase after her and she can Claw me for free if I dash or jump. I have made some progress with getting her into the corner and making her my bitch, but when she is out of the corner, its back to the chasing. What can I do to lock her down on the middle on the screen?
b.23 resets. She has crappy stuff on block.
Also you can charge her for free if she isn't full screen from you and she can't do anything about it.
 

Khaoz77

Don't run, you're gonna trip...
b.23 resets. She has crappy stuff on block.
Also you can charge her for free if she isn't full screen from you and she can't do anything about it.
Can't she MB Claw? I respect the hell out of that move and will avoid it at all costs.
 

Limelights

"The smart stuff"
So Bane's double punch whiffs a lot on Wonder Woman for some reason. The second hit of it, that is. Just something to add.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
Started messing with this monster this morning for funsies, I tried him early, but that was pre buff.

How do you cancel his F2 string...I am at work now so it would be nice to know for when I got home.
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Elder God
Started messing with this monster this morning for funsies, I tried him early, but that was pre buff.

How do you cancel his F2 string...I am at work now so it would be nice to know for when I got home.
f2 can be charged by holding 2 down, max charge doesnt net you any kind of bonus, you just hold it down, then forward/back dash to cancel out of it.
 

TakeAChance

TYM White Knight
f2 can be charged by holding 2 down, max charge doesnt net you any kind of bonus, you just hold it down, then forward/back dash to cancel out of it.
Ah good to know, I didn't know it charged...I thought you just had to commit. That's awesome. Can't wait to zip across the screen. It requires level 3 to get the full wave dash right?
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Elder God
Ah good to know, I didn't know it charged...I thought you just had to commit. That's awesome. Can't wait to zip across the screen. It requires level 3 to get the full wave dash right?
the only reason it's cancellable is so on level 3 you can use it to dash through projectiles, it doesn't affect your speed of getting across the screen imo.
 

PND_Mustard

"More stealthful than the night"
Elder God
Wouldn't bf1 accomplish the same thing?
exactly haha, personally i feel the f2 cancelling is worthless, one good thing you can do with it is make single hitting safe on block specials punishable by cancelling out after taking the hit on the armour, but it HAS to be done on a read.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Bane is extremely free to GL.

GL just has to walk backwards and zone you. You ahve no way of getting in without risking a lot.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Bane is extremely free to GL.

GL just has to walk backwards and zone you. You ahve no way of getting in without risking a lot.
Exact opposite, he lacks the mobility to get away, and with venom we can get in whenever we want. That on top of a lack of wake-up options makes it only slightly in his favor, if at all. Machine gun is his only saving grace.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Exact opposite, he lacks the mobility to get away, and with venom we can get in whenever we want. That on top of a lack of wake-up options makes it only slightly in his favor, if at all. Machine gun is his only saving grace.

Meterburned oas rocket
Machine gun
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Meterburned oas rocket
Machine gun
Machine gun I already said
Its a lot harder than you'd think to reliably meterburn the oas while we are already on the run, and he only gets 4 shots. Whats more is we have a LOT more incentive to go level 3 and even with us on cooldown the worst he can hope for is to chip us. Him walking away means we have less and less to worry about when we have to wait out the 6 seconds to go wild again.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Machine gun I already said
Its a lot harder than you'd think to reliably meterburn the oas while we are already on the run, and he only gets 4 shots. Whats more is we have a LOT more incentive to go level 3 and even with us on cooldown the worst he can hope for is to chip us. Him walking away means we have less and less to worry about when we have to wait out the 6 seconds to go wild again.

He can meterburn it on reaction. It stick to you on hit, and on block. He can hit you with it as you dash and he can mix in air oas rockets.

He can also fuck up your oki game with his own lanterns might which can use to fuck up any normals, meaning your only option on his wake up are to armor through it, or try and bait it. Well, he can pretty much wake up on reaction to you doing anything not armored and as a result, he will just dash backwards out of your pressure.

Its hell getting in, and he has blockstrings to worry about, B13 machine gun is safe and puts you at quite a distance.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
He can meterburn it on reaction. It stick to you on hit, and on block. He can hit you with it as you dash and he can mix in air oas rockets.

He can also fuck up your oki game with his own lanterns might which can use to fuck up any normals, meaning your only option on his wake up are to armor through it, or try and bait it. Well, he can pretty much wake up on reaction to you doing anything not armored and as a result, he will just dash backwards out of your pressure.

Its hell getting in, and he has blockstrings to worry about, B13 machine gun is safe and puts you at quite a distance.
Once the missle is in we can charge and basically disregard the missle. Air rockets we can just outspeed.

Our oki game against him is 90% venom, so good luck with that. We can also block n punish, we don't always need to attack him. His backwards dash isn't that good, his mobility in general is bad.

Its not hard to get in and his only reliable opener is his low kick. Get in, block low, punish.
 

JaredL

Aww shit <REDACTED DUE TO FEELINGS> its Shapzam
Once the missle is in we can charge and basically disregard the missle. Air rockets we can just outspeed.

Our oki game against him is 90% venom, so good luck with that. We can also block n punish, we don't always need to attack him. His backwards dash isn't that good, his mobility in general is bad.

Its not hard to get in and his only reliable opener is his low kick. Get in, block low, punish.

It is hard to get in because you block his air rockets high and that requires you to walk backwards and him jump backwards. You walking back and him jumping back does not getting in make.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
It is hard to get in because you block his air rockets high and that requires you to walk backwards and him jump backwards. You walking back and him jumping back does not getting in make.
Once he goes in the air, dash. You'll be under the rocket before it comes out.
 

Dayvo

My english it's not good
Once the missle is in we can charge and basically disregard the missle. Air rockets we can just outspeed.

Our oki game against him is 90% venom, so good luck with that. We can also block n punish, we don't always need to attack him. His backwards dash isn't that good, his mobility in general is bad.

Its not hard to get in and his only reliable opener is his low kick. Get in, block low, punish.
GL it's truly a hard MU. In this match, the key it's "less rushdown and more punish". You have to slowly get in, and wait. I agree that without venom you have nothing to do, and the Machine gun it's a hell, but it's all about be patient. He surely will be wining all the match, until we finally get in, hard punish with lvl 3, wait for cooldown, and start again. The GLs that I managed to beat, the time was almost running out or it finished in my favour. They chip you a lot, you give them a pair of good combos, repeat. At the end of the match, we will have the lifebar balance in our favour, and they will start to attack, and then we can punish more. Almost all GL start with B1, so blocking low it's mandatory, and if you pushblock them(Bane doesn't need much meter, so probably we can spent it here), they will start getting nervous.

The idea is instill fear in the GL, fear that if they do a bad move, they will break. I think that a good stage may help, Justice Hall it's the best for me in this MU. If you corner him in the left side, use the robot to break him, and if he is in the right, expect him to use it and punish him for that with an armored move