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4x4lo8o

Warrior
1~WE(2), 112=15%
1~WE(2), 11~WE(3)=18%
1~WE(2), 11~MC=20%
I'm not sure if these should be listed. It says they combo, but if you try them against a dummy set to autoblock the WE(2) is blockable and a real opponent can block it as well.


F13, D2~MC=20%
F13, D2~MC(MB)=24%

B23, D2~MC=23%
For these(and probably any other time you end in d2~mc) the d2 doesn't actually add any damage. It increases scaling too much.

f12~mc does 20% and f13~MB MC actually does 25%, so you're losing damage by adding in the d2. I also think the d2 makes that combo significantly harder.

b23, MC does 23%. On this one the d2 might be worth doing because without the d2 the MB portion of MC will whiff so it does open up the potential for some more damage.

If anyone's looking for more ways to combo off of b23, I noticed you can dash and land a d1. I don't know enough about Hawkgirls combos yet to know if you can get more from that(d1~WE and d1~MC still feel awkward to me, it'll be a few more days before I can do them well in combos) and it's possible you could be able to land something other than d1 after the dash, although it might be pretty tight timing.
 

CamRac

Noob
Rather than high low mixups, Hawkgirl focuses on left right mixups (crossups). I never use sweep because it's punishable on block by a full combo from the whole cast. If you really want to use a low then use b22 and always cancel into we(2 if corner 3 if midscreen)/mc.
Thanks guys!

I'm about to give away my noobish-ness with HG on this one, haha. You know when you land a WE3 up close, and then you end up right on top of the opponent on the other side and do a WE2? Does this actually hit as a cross-up on the opponent if you do it early enough? Conversely, if you delay it some, does it hit on the side you're on (not a cross-up)?
 

Boodendorf

Bird woman!
Thanks guys!

I'm about to give away my noobish-ness with HG on this one, haha. You know when you land a WE3 up close, and then you end up right on top of the opponent on the other side and do a WE2? Does this actually hit as a cross-up on the opponent if you do it early enough? Conversely, if you delay it some, does it hit on the side you're on (not a cross-up)?
Don't delay: Crossup that won't hit.
Slight delay: crossup that will hit, hard to do.
delay: fake crossup.
 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
I'm not sure if these should be listed. It says they combo, but if you try them against a dummy set to autoblock the WE(2) is blockable and a real opponent can block it as well.




For these(and probably any other time you end in d2~mc) the d2 doesn't actually add any damage. It increases scaling too much.

f12~mc does 20% and f13~MB MC actually does 25%, so you're losing damage by adding in the d2. I also think the d2 makes that combo significantly harder.

b23, MC does 23%. On this one the d2 might be worth doing because without the d2 the MB portion of MC will whiff so it does open up the potential for some more damage.

If anyone's looking for more ways to combo off of b23, I noticed you can dash and land a d1. I don't know enough about Hawkgirls combos yet to know if you can get more from that(d1~WE and d1~MC still feel awkward to me, it'll be a few more days before I can do them well in combos) and it's possible you could be able to land something other than d1 after the dash, although it might be pretty tight timing.
I just tested the 1~WE(2) combos and yes you are right...they don't register. I swear on day 1 they did which is why I listed them...ugh. Either it's been changed or I was just dumb enough to not notice. lol. I'm going to the leave the D2~MC combos you mentioned only because they are noob friendly. ;)
 

CamRac

Noob
***For the record, I didn't mean that as a slap to HG. I'm just trying to figure out how to play to her strengths. She feels fairly unorthodox compared to other rushdown characters I've mained before.
 

Phillip

Noob
Oh! Interesting. I didn't know we could just do 3 into mace toss. I will definitely be practicing that at home. I think I got 3,2 to work on Nightwing, and I consider him a small character :p It definitely did not work on any female characters aside from Wonder Woman though.

Hmm, I've never tried d1 into we2. That is unfortunate since her low starters seem seldom at this point. We'll see what they do with her in the long run :) Thanks for the tips, it helps a lot!
wow 3 up mace toss ji2 bf2mb 42% looks like a good new bnb
 

Phillip

Noob
i like b2242db2mb once or twice to open them up from blocking high all the time
i dont think i see this combo up there so could you add this.i think its a great tool to train people and mix them take out the db1 and add bf2mb for 31%
 

Swoops

Noob
So quick addition to up mace MB combo. I was testing vs black Adam and was able to get:

3 xx mace toss~MB+u, B3, ji2, 123, 3 xx MC (48%)

Timing wasn't too difficult, not sure if it'll work vs smaller characters though.

I'm starting to try and end all combos with divekick. The knockdown vs airborne opponents is so good. Gives you time for crossing up with WE3. Super good options, cross ups, lows, cross up lows, cross up overheads, and you're even close enough for MB mace throw combos.
 

Airborne

The Mad Scientist
So, I completely forgot to test this the other day, so I went ahead and confirmed it:
*Corner Cross-up Combo into Cross-under to return to corner, 41% meterless*
j.1 *cross-up* *land* 1, 2, 3 *dash forward under opponent to other side* B1 xx WE(3) B1 xx WE(3) F13 F13 xx WE(3)

Haven't noticed, but has someone already posted this? I have it uploading to Youtube right now and I'll make it public if no one makes claim to it.

Edit: Fuck it, here it is:

 

RunwayMafia

Shoot them. Shoot them all.
So, I completely forgot to test this the other day, so I went ahead and confirmed it:
*Corner Cross-up Combo into Cross-under to return to corner, 41% meterless*
j.1 *cross-up* *land* 1, 2, 3 *dash forward under opponent to other side* B1 xx WE(3) B1 xx WE(3) F13 F13 xx WE(3)

Haven't noticed, but has someone already posted this? I have it uploading to Youtube right now and I'll make it public if no one makes claim to it.

Edit: Fuck it, here it is:

Sexy as fuck
 
Not sure if new since I don't find it in OP but, (Midscreen) B23 B1 WE3 (whiff) F13 Mace charge does 30%
This should really be the new standard as a midscreen bnb off of B23 hit confirm. It is so good. Good damage, good corner push, and meterless. An excellent contribution. :D

Even if you execute the B1>WE3 too fast/slow and WE3 connects, you still get 23% and excellent cornerpush. I feel its match practical as well considering the timing doesn't seem that strict.
 

Boodendorf

Bird woman!
Not sure if new since I don't find it in OP but, (Midscreen) B23 B1 WE3 (whiff) F13 Mace charge does 30%
I can't get it to work, tried it yesterday and we3 hit everytime not matter how much I delayed it. Can you make a quick video about it?
 

Drizzle

Jump and shoot.
I can't get the b1 to hit on Harley. Character-specific, perhaps?

Edit: Also, you definitely want to execute everything as fast as possible.