Question The Buffs Bane Needs?

[Doombawkz]

IMO his super should automatically raise him another venom level. If he is at 3, pump it up to level 4 venom for the super.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

IMO his super should automatically raise him another venom level. If he is at 3, pump it up to level 4 venom for the super.

I think the practical way of implementing your idea is to simply just increase the damage of his super. It does the same thing ^_^!

 

[Astrocytic]

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

Yeah, okay.

 

[Doombawkz]

I think the practical way of implementing your idea is to simply just increase the damage of his super. It does the same thing ^_^!

I don't care, I wanna see him slap his chest, yell "YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH" and his venom meter turn gold or something with absolute powah.

 

[RYX]

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

"Venom does not induce an increased damage taken."

Yeah, okay.

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[LEGI0N47]

So after a bit of lab session last night I can't agree more with the MB damage scaling in combos. I was doing some stuff with backround boucnes and bounce cancels on level 2 venom. TBH it's not even worth it to MB any of the specials at the end of combos as it was only adding 3% to my overall damage. It was the same for Venom uppercut, Double Punch, and Cmd Grab which you would think would yield more than the others considering what it is as well as the fact its his most damaging special. IMO the scalling is pretty weak considering none of them bounce or are chainable as well as leave you in a less desirable position.

 

[PND_Mustard]

i think this is getting a bit out of hand, especially this early i don't think Bane should get everything listed in page 1.

imho all he needs is having no negative effects from venom running out. i think that would be a good place to start.

 

[LEGI0N47]

That would be a great place to start. A couple other Venom property changes would be nice as well but that's the main change he needs. A lot of things I'm throwing out are just idea's that could be nice. A lot of them are probobly not able to be implemented anyway or will not be due to resources/cost etc. I'm also just bummed that my guy doesn't have that ferocious speed and devestation he's known for and i'm letting it out every chance I get. Really I'd be happy with the Venom change and a few frame changes for a few faster moves. Anything else would be major bonus.

 

[iMLGzus]

I think a lot of stuff on the first page are what we'd like to see happen. Not exactly what they should give him 100%. If NRS took several things from that list, they would all help Bane.

I agree that Venom debuffs need to go. Priority 1.

 

[OutlawNightmare]

I think another thing that would be very nice is giving us armor on F2 and F2D with level 1 venom rather than only on level 3 would open up some more punishment options.

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[Citizen Kano]

i think this is getting a bit out of hand, especially this early i don't think Bane should get everything listed in page 1.

imho all he needs is having no negative effects from venom running out. i think that would be a good place to start.

This. I can live with all the other stuff but the debuff has to go. Any other buffs are just icing on the cake in my eyes.

 

[masuhdunkillyall]

All he needs to start is a frame data change on f.2 so you can at least attempt to punish and then frame trap with it with double punch/cmd grab. In addition, armor on f.2 and f.2d in all levels of venom would help this greatly. Also, the damage taken debuff needs to go. That is a great start. Further on it might be nice to have greater combo starting ability in strings other than b.23 and 113 (this one is really corner only though). Maybe make 223 launch as b.23 does and keep them closer to help with that.

 

[RYX]

i think this is getting a bit out of hand, especially this early i don't think Bane should get everything listed in page 1.

imho all he needs is having no negative effects from venom running out. i think that would be a good place to start.

These are more or less just a compilation of possibilities and minor changes to frame data on moves. Not all need to be implemented but they'd sure be nice

 

[PND_Mustard]

These are more or less just a compilation of possibilities and minor changes to frame data on moves. Not all need to be implemented but they'd sure be nice

that's kinda what i'm hinting at, having such a large list of possibilities imo dilutes the relevance of the thread, if we were to keep everything concise and necessary people would have more reason to take our concerns seriously.

 

[REDRUM]

im no Bane expert at all but i think his trait needs a BUFF for sure... Meaning he shouldnt be punished for using his trait... Whats that garbage?

That alone would help him a bunch

 

[PND_Mustard]

im no Bane expert at all but i think his trait needs a BUFF for sure... Meaning he shouldnt be punished for using his trait... Whats that garbage?

That alone would help him a bunch

that's my only request right now really, i think just losing the negative effects whilst his trait is cooling down could potentially be all he needed to compete properly.

 

[REDRUM]

that's my only request right now really, i think just losing the negative effects whilst his trait is cooling down could potentially be all he needed to compete properly.

yup... There should not be a trait in this game that hurts u if its countered per se

Comparing that negetive aspect to lets say Aquaman's trait is a joke... Ok it doesnt have to be as usefull as Batman or Aquaman's trait, or Black Adam etc etc But dont have a trait in this game that is horrible in relation to the top tier chars....

Lets get some trait balance..

 

[PND_Mustard]

yup... There should not be a trait in this game that hurts u if its countered per se

Comparing that negetive aspect to lets say Aquaman's trait is a joke... Ok it doesnt have to be as usefull as Batman or Aquaman's trait, or Black Adam etc etc But dont have a trait in this game that is horrible in relation to the top tier chars....

Lets get some trait balance..

it's just odd, i swear Bane is the only character who actually suffers a weakness once his trait's ran out

 

[RWDY Nori]

it's just odd, i swear Bane is the only character who actually suffers a weakness once his trait's ran out

That's cause he IS the only char to suffer from a trait running out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

I have it on VERY good confirmation that NRS is reading this thread so let's all keep our suggestions realistic and not too crazy

 

[RYX]

That's cause he IS the only char to suffer from a trait running out. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

I have it on VERY good confirmation that NRS is reading this thread so let's all keep our suggestions realistic and not too crazy

I'm gonna be removing a few suggestions for now. We should see just where no Venom punishment takes us first.

What should be taken out altogether?

 

[REDRUM]

it's just odd, i swear Bane is the only character who actually suffers a weakness once his trait's ran out

Yup for sure and that isnt "Balanced".... Not sure who tested Bane and said "well, ok this is balanced, lets punish Bane for using his trait" ...

 

[PND_Mustard]

Yup for sure and that isnt "Balanced".... Not sure who tested Bane and said "well, ok this is balanced, lets punish Bane for using his trait" ...

Maybe they weren't fans of the Dark Knight Rises

 

[RWDY Nori]

I'm gonna be removing a few suggestions for now. We should see just where no Venom punishment takes us first.

What should be taken out altogether?

It's all a matter of opinion to be honest, I don't think any posts or idea should be 100% removed, just thought I'd post that so everybody posts are doing the following:

1) Have a VERY good idea of how Bane works, or at least has made a real attempt to main him

2) Gives realistic suggestions so we are taken seriously as a community. I have yet to see a completely stupid idea but just saying

 

[RYX]

It's all a matter of opinion to be honest, I don't think any posts or idea should be 100% removed, just thought I'd post that so everybody posts are doing the following:

1) Have a VERY good idea of how Bane works, or at least has made a real attempt to main him

2) Gives realistic suggestions so we are taken seriously as a community. I have yet to see a completely stupid idea but just saying

Well, what seems like too much right now then?

 

[jfunkey]

The only problem i have with removing the debuffs is Bane's trait just becomes a better version of shazam's it seems. I think they just focus on making meter burns useful and making most of normals not completely ass.