I Am Gotham's Reckoning -- Bane General Discussion Thread

[RYX]

That's pretty much what I've been doing from the start. But it's still very difficult to close the distance on some characters like Batman and Joker, even with superhuman patience.

I haven't played Superman vs Bane(scared to lol) but Batman is just a matter of dashing and jumping rangs. If you can take the life lead then he has to come to you.

 

[big_aug]

I haven't played Superman vs Bane(scared to lol) but Batman is just a matter of dashing and jumping rangs. If you can take the life lead then he has to come to you.

I'm pretty sure Batman doesn't give a single fuck about anything Bane has in his arsenal. He wants to come to us. He just puts up bats and then comes in and full combos. His wakeups are also good against us. He has the slide and the parry which are both useful.

 

[RYX]

I'm pretty sure Batman doesn't give a single fuck about anything Bane has in his arsenal. He wants to come to us. He just puts up bats and then comes in and full combos. His wakeups are also good against us. He has the slide and the parry which are both useful.

There are gaps in his strings that Venom more than takes care of with armor. Bats take a long while to reload for all three and he can armor through if there's just one if he tries to jump on you.

 

[AA25Mamba]

I really want to just post the set-ups and 100%'s I've found but I want it to be in video. ;_; Oh, these decisions... Decisions indeed.

That would be great to see those, if you get time.

Bane has all the tools we need. I feel like a main key to his play is using the Body Press on knockdowns.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

So the secret is out the bag. Every character has at least one throw invincible move. That explains a lot of the stupid throw whiffing.

 

[big_aug]

What do you mean throw invincible move?

 

[chief713]

I am now a believer in ending combos with Venom Uppercut. Positioning is too good and it doesn't do THAT much less than ending with command grab.

 

[RYX]

My go to debuff burner (level 3) in the corner.

F.3(MB), j.2, 123 c.grab MB

This works amazingly vs wake ups thanks to f.3 armor, and the nature of his ground bounce makes it difficult to jump over. Delay the f.3 slightly, then delay j.2 and 123 to the last possible moment you can hit them to burn as much time as possible. Done right from they very START of debuff you can venom again before they get up.

Some wake ups makes you switch positions but you can do delay j.2 into 12 c.grab meter burn(hold back while this is active) and throw them back into the corner while burning time and starting over.

On block you get +9. Yay for frame traps.

chief713
Doombawkz
PND_Mustard
big_aug

 

[Doombawkz]

That's not bad, but I don't like his f.3, its too telegraphed imo.

 

[RYX]

That's not bad, but I don't like his f.3, its too telegraphed imo.

It's meant for wake-ups after a knockdown. Can't telegraph dat shit.

 

[Doombawkz]

It's meant for wake-ups after a knockdown. Can't telegraph dat shit.

I dunno... I still feel like that pause makes it pretty obvious though us not being punishable is nice.

 

[RWDY Nori]

Because he sucks. I live down the street from WNF. If I'm staying late and then having to show up to work early next day, I want to win. Bane is not who you pick to win. He's fun to play. He's fun to watch. He's even fun to listen to (love the venom sound effects).

I'll take it a step further. Big slow characters are not who you pick to win, not in this current game's build. Black Adam can deal 50%+ off easy combo confirms and zone you for 20%+. Aquaman can get 30%+ consistently and do so safely with strong normals and decent zoning.

He's more like the Tager of BlazBlue than the Zangief of Street Fighter, only he doens't have extra life, a projectile, an invincible command grab without meter, or a super that screams you lose.

Remember when people said Sinestro was one of the worst? Pig of the Hut says hi. And there are other people out there that you haven't seen who can smash people w/Bane. Just because you yourself have yet to tap into his potential, don't blame the game's build or that you haven't seen anybody do well at WNF, that's an excuse I'm sorry. Maybe he's not your style or you don't like him, but it sounds like your basing his standing in the game based on how you have yet to adapt to the game

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

What do you mean throw invincible move?

A tutorial Tom Brady did for Grundy. At the 7 min mark, he explains throw invincible moves. I already knew that there were situations where Bane's Throws wouldn't work (normal, special, & super), but I attributed it to throw properties not functioning on Frames where throw and attack perfectly clashed. Based on his explanation, there are throw invincible situations, but frames have nothing to do with it. Instead, they are specific to special moves (that probably each character has) that nullify throws and their armor properties. So against grapplers like Grundy and Bane, those moves become optional wake-up moves and pokes due to them being throw invincible, EVEN IF YOU HAVE ARMOR.

I believe Bane's venom charge is his throw invincible move. If you use Bane's Super and set the AI Bane to do Venom Charge, you will get the same outcome as Tom Brady's Grundy Demo. Venom Charge will either clash with your super, trade (in which case you take damage from the charge, but your armor absorbes it) or it beats out the super clean by nullifying the armor. This outcome applies to ALL throws.

Bane isn't low tier! And by Tuesday's patch, with the buffs he's getting and the nerfs to the characters that aren't really top tier but people complain about, he should be top tier for sure!

 

[RYX]

I dunno... I still feel like that pause makes it pretty obvious though us not being punishable is nice.

I don't see any pause. I see a knockdown and the ability to punish wake ups with the meter and get Venom back. Realistically there's only the pause that you make besides the one that Bane has to sit through after most enders.

If they're respectful of the f.3 I'd wager you can start doing lows or 1/b.11/d.1 tick throws/pressure since they won't try to wake up if you have the meter to stop them. You can also dash back and get right outside their range and punish for no meter though this can be harder. I'd wager you can dash it and go into more pressure depending how well they react.

Outside that you're only getting a pause if you make it, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Doombawkz]

I prefer f.3 at the end of my combos for the dirty reset. Speaking of, tell me your secrets D:

 

[RYX]

I prefer f.3 at the end of my combos for the dirty reset. Speaking of, tell me your secrets D:

Now is not the time for secrets. That comes later.

(My capture card will be up this weekend hopefully. Still double checking to make sure I'm satisfied with all the findings.)

 

[AA25Mamba]

What are you guys using for punishes now? I'm finding the B23 to be a tad slow. I've been trying to use the throw for positioning. But, has anyone else tried 113, Rage Charge as a punish? It puts you in great position if the charge hits. Is the 113 fast enough though?

Also, has anyone tried the Body Press as a wake-up attack?

BTW, looking forward to seeing these secrets you have RYX. Bane is looking good.

 

[iMLGzus]

Guyz...I haz a confession. I went to my first local tourney and told myself I'd play Bane...then I picked Black Adam and lost, and felt terrible at the same time. So it's time for me to return to my roots, Bane Main from day 1 until the day this game dies for good. Next local I'm repping Bane and gonna make this forum proud.

I did, however, pick Bane during one match. Although I lost, I had the players there compliment me on my Bane. They told me I was definitely one of the better Banes they ran into and were genuinely afraid at times during the matches and casuals. Gives me confidence. Going to my local store on Monday night for Monday Night Fights and I'm bringing the Venom. Wish me luck.

 

[RYX]

What are you guys using for punishes now? I'm finding the B23 to be a tad slow. I've been trying to use the throw for positioning. But, has anyone else tried 113, Rage Charge as a punish? It puts you in great position if the charge hits. Is the 113 fast enough though?

Also, has anyone tried the Body Press as a wake-up attack?

BTW, looking forward to seeing these secrets you have RYX. Bane is looking good.

Realistically, 223 is a decent punisher if others are too slow but they can duck your 1. It links into Air grab only unless you do 22~c.grab. Normal throw is also a decent punisher since people are forced to block when crouching so if they're expecting 1, hit them with that.

I have not. I usually do 113~c.grab and MB if I can reverse them closer to my corner. And don't worry, I won't disappoint.

Guyz...I haz a confession. I went to my first local tourney and told myself I'd play Bane...then I picked Black Adam and lost, and felt terrible at the same time. So it's time for me to return to my roots, Bane Main from day 1 until the day this game dies for good. Next local I'm repping Bane and gonna make this forum proud.

I did, however, pick Bane during one match. Although I lost, I had the players there compliment me on my Bane. They told me I was definitely one of the better Banes they ran into and were genuinely afraid at times during the matches and casuals. Gives me confidence. Going to my local store on Monday night for Monday Night Fights and I'm bringing the Venom. Wish me luck.

Break their backs so Batgirl feels right at home.

 

[iMLGzus]

Break their backs so Batgirl feels right at home.

That's the plan, cappy-tan.

 

[RWDY Nori]

Guyz...I haz a confession. I went to my first local tourney and told myself I'd play Bane...then I picked Black Adam and lost, and felt terrible at the same time. So it's time for me to return to my roots, Bane Main from day 1 until the day this game dies for good. Next local I'm repping Bane and gonna make this forum proud.

I did, however, pick Bane during one match. Although I lost, I had the players there compliment me on my Bane. They told me I was definitely one of the better Banes they ran into and were genuinely afraid at times during the matches and casuals. Gives me confidence. Going to my local store on Monday night for Monday Night Fights and I'm bringing the Venom. Wish me luck.

Nobody, not even a top player, mastered anybody on this roster overnight or in any FG in history. Bane is not a spam happy, brainless char, he's a thinking man's char. He takes time, stick w/it. If people are already complimenting on your 3 week bane that's pretty good

 

[big_aug]

Is there a general way to tell if a knockdown is going to be short, medium, or long duration or do you have to just know the attacks for every character? Getting knocked down by other characters that is

 

[iMLGzus]

http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments/b/399480754 41:00 is my Bane match. Bout a minute in we realized both our controls were messed up so we just let it rock. I already know I played relatively shitty, it was first time playing an actual player so my reactions and such were way off, but it'd be helpful if I can get some criticism. Any at all. I'm a man, I can take it. Cheers.

Edit: Also, might've been nerves that were screwing up my inputs. Got a F.2 instead F.2D. Luckily it hit him lol.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments/b/399480754 41:00 is my Bane match. Bout a minute in we realized both our controls were messed up so we just let it rock. I already know I played relatively shitty, it was first time playing an actual player so my reactions and such were way off, but it'd be helpful if I can get some criticism. Any at all. I'm a man, I can take it. Cheers.

Edit: Also, might've been nerves that were screwing up my inputs. Got a F.2 instead F.2D. Luckily it hit him lol.

It's nerves. Being streamed does that to you. Don't worry about it. I'm sure people will forgive you for giving them some variety from the standard characters we're all seeing month 1.

 

[KombatNerd]

This character is awesome. RYX