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Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
Have you ever been to East Coast Throwdown? Or any of the NE events? I mean, if you'd like to talk about supporting MK, none of you in this thread have done the amount of support Joe has shown over the last decade. Period.
am being 700 right now with you tim, but why would he not include a fighting game still alive, at a tournament if he is running it? i was at ect4 mk was packed and hype and i thank him for running it. but if there is a profit to be made, even if he hates the game he is still going to support it. but the question is why would he say what he said about mk if he has been supporting it for so long? what am trying to say is until i have confirmation from joe that it wasn't about the money to run mk at tournaments, and that it was for the awesome community, even though he hates the game, it could come off to someone who think things through like myself. again i'm keeping it 900 with you all, it can come off like that and i would love to hear an answer, not trying to bash anyone, or shit on anyone. but when you say someone has been supporting a scene, even though he doesn't like the game itself, in a capitalist society........you know what am talking about.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
Don't get me started on passion. Do you want me to give you my story of what I had to go through at Summer Jam 2011 just for MK9? How I had been supporting MK PRIOR to MK9 in general, entering MK tournaments for multiple MK games, about how I've been with this community since I first even began to play fighting games competitively. How about the numerous things I've done for the sake of discussion of MK9?

Let's not go into all that. Because clearly I'm not passionate about MK9 and MK as a whole.
but you lost that passion right? that is why you can tolerate what li joe said, that is my point to this, again you responded to one thing but not what i said before, can you come to terms that people still have great passion for this game, and that what li joe "did" was a big fuck you to them? that is the question you should answer.
 

PPJ

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guys like bit and cat are just voicing their opinion, they aren't trolling either, so no need to get butthurt about it

it doesn't matter anyways because li joe probably doesn't give a shit about their opinions (no disrespect) ^_^
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
but you lost that passion right? that is why you can tolerate what li joe said, that is my point to this, again you responded to one thing but not what i said before, can you come to terms that people still have great passion for this game, and that what li joe "did" was a big fuck you to them? that is the question you should answer.
For the record, I didn't lose that passion to travel and support the MK9 game and community. I have had a lot of things go down after MLG Columbus, such as prepping for a marriage while not really making that much and having unstable income for the longest time, Console Combat dissolving, my main group of training partners splitting up, and basically being stuck with only online play, which just doesn't work for me considering the combination of netcode and my own internet being problematic, as well as my current life schedule being terrible. It's just a bunch of stuff.

But to answer your question, I guess they can be mad, even though he wasn't particularly shitting on the players themselves. Trust me, a number of my friends shat on MK9 whenever it was brought to light, and even shat on the fact that it shouldn't be part of MLG. I quite honestly don't care...why should I? I know what Joe's done in terms of support for MK in general, and can come to terms with what he said about MK9. Why? It's different strokes for different folks. The man has said it in this thread, the community deserves everything they got, and they do. Only FGC to actually support the MLG movement, really, and continued to support the game at tournaments everywhere, despite people saying the game was dead.
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
thisisiloveu is coming back to play Injustice. Can we welcome him back FOR Injustice instead of stirring shit of the past?

BTW, Joe said NOTHING about MK9 in this thread until Cat...


Does this matter? He left us alone through MK9. He didn't stick around like a wart (like Digimon) and bitch and moan about shit.

Joe left and left us alone and he is returning for Injustice.

And yes, he is a legend in Mortal Kombat. He's particularly a legend in UMK3... the game that essentially kept the shred of Mortal Kombat alive in tournaments until MK9. When MK9 began there were no top MK players like we have now for MK9.

GAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

In before he bashes injustice a few months from now.

And okay he played umk3 ? That did nothing for mk9. Mk9 is now. Reo played umk3 years after it died. And still bodied most of these "og legends".
Mk9 is what it is from the support of you and Tym staff and the numerous of fans (who probably didnt start playing Mk until now ).
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
For the record, I didn't lose that passion to travel and support the MK9 game and community. I have had a lot of things go down after MLG Columbus, such as prepping for a marriage while not really making that much and having unstable income for the longest time, Console Combat dissolving, my main group of training partners splitting up, and basically being stuck with only online play, which just doesn't work for me considering the combination of netcode and my own internet being problematic, as well as my current life schedule being terrible. It's just a bunch of stuff.

But to answer your question, I guess they can be mad, even though he wasn't particularly shitting on the players themselves. Trust me, a number of my friends shat on MK9 whenever it was brought to light, and even shat on the fact that it shouldn't be part of MLG. I quite honestly don't care...why should I? I know what Joe's done in terms of support for MK in general, and can come to terms with what he said about MK9. Why? It's different strokes for different folks. The man has said it in this thread, the community deserves everything they got, and they do. Only FGC to actually support the MLG movement, really, and continued to support the game at tournaments everywhere, despite people saying the game was dead.
perfect answer, people react and behave different under different circumstances, i know most don't realize that and i wanted to bring it to your attention that you were arguing against inevitable circumstances. i am sorry that you can't make it too more tourneys and i am sorry for assuming your absence was your loss of passion. people will take it offensive and personal sometimes when you "shit" on something they love, i know i used to be like that, before i gave a fuck about others opinions.
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
Like 16 bit said. ... He is the reason why we mock "Mk is dead". And the reason why storms decided to make those shirts. So ppl like him can see we are not dead. And we deserved our tournaments like mlg and even evo for a 3rd consecutive year. We will do the same with injustice after him and other Capcom top players trash talk it and quit playing it.
Giving these Capcom players spotlight (the numerous front page posts about so and so capcom top player tweet about injustice , or thought and what not after trashing mk9 is ridiculous ).
How about more front page post about the true long supporters of mk9 thought and tweets on injustice?
Not "fchamp to use sinestro in tweet" front page!!! Omg ! Fchamp!
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
Don't get me started on passion. Do you want me to give you my story of what I had to go through at Summer Jam 2011 just for MK9? How I had been supporting MK PRIOR to MK9 in general, entering MK tournaments for multiple MK games, about how I've been with this community since I first even began to play fighting games competitively. How about the numerous things I've done for the sake of discussion of MK9?

Let's not go into all that. Because clearly I'm not passionate about MK9 and MK as a whole.
All that for Mk. Yet you let someone trash talk it and welcome him like it never happen.

We all have done things that were hard to support the game and to have someone say the game is trash and does not deserve esports tournaments after all the work we done. Is something I won't take so lightly.
 

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
All that for Mk. Yet you let someone trash talk it and welcome him like it never happen.

We all have done things that were hard to support the game and to have someone say the game is trash and does not deserve esports tournaments after all the work we done. Is something I won't take so lightly.
Lol when did he say these things? If it was like months ago then you bringing it up is hella hollywood. He didnt even say to celebrate his return, he just said he was returning.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
All that for Mk. Yet you let someone trash talk it and welcome him like it never happen.

We all have done things that were hard to support the game and to have someone say the game is trash and does not deserve esports tournaments after all the work we done. Is something I won't take so lightly.
Problem is he trashed ONE game, he didn't trash you, me, or anyone else in the community. He trashed the game for the problems it does have, he doesn't like them, I can't blame him. But that aside, it's how he feels, you may not have been around long enough to see how much he supports MK in general, but I have. I've seen how he truly feels about the MK community, which is the difference.

Again, I have trashed the game in the past and said the game was dead, yaddayadda. If you're going to come out on him like that, you better be ready to come out on A LOT more people than him. Some of which come to this site pretty often. Just saying.
 
I liked that I got next documentary featuring Li Joe, it was pretty awesome. Street Fighter history and how FGC is what it is today. Capcom games are pretty cool, it's good to see Injustice belonging to everyone.
 

Protagonist_1

Champion
I might get in trouble for making this thread. Just wanted to say hi to everyone and apologize for my long hiatus from this site. I'm looking forward to breaking down injustice with everyone when it drops!

I do have a question though. Did Mk have those weird input errors when get crossed up? It feels to happen more often then none where ill get crossed up and try to do a down 1 or down back 1 and ill get a hcb or qcf move. Anyone feel this?
Good to see you back LiJoe. I remember watching you at PDP, that hat toss and jump of the stage was godlike. I also watched your stream yesterday breaking down injustice, really appreciated you answering questions. Nightwing so far sounds pretty sick, as well as the rest of the characters. Can't wait for the breakdown of IGAU after the game drops. :D
 

cR WoundCowboy

WoundCowbae <3
While I definitely disagree with the ass-kissing encouraged by some of the people in this thread, we should give Joe a chance to show us what he can do with Injustice. He could be valuable to our community in the future even if his past contributions are questionable.
 

miloPKL

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discussion like this should be locked. i mean come on seriously i dont want to constantly see this shit in the recent threads. i dont give a fuck about who said what or how great joe is or was or will be, or if tym doesnt like his return, or any of that shit. none of this has to do with the game. say your welcome backs, and move on. this shit should be fucking over. @mods
 

Cat

This guy looks kind of tuff...
Problem is he trashed ONE game, he didn't trash you, me, or anyone else in the community. He trashed the game for the problems it does have, he doesn't like them, I can't blame him. But that aside, it's how he feels, you may not have been around long enough to see how much he supports MK in general, but I have. I've seen how he truly feels about the MK community, which is the difference.

Again, I have trashed the game in the past and said the game was dead, yaddayadda. If you're going to come out on him like that, you better be ready to come out on A LOT more people than him. Some of which come to this site pretty often. Just saying.

if he supports the mk community then why didnt he say "Glad mk COMMUNITY is getting these high end tournaments, they have worked hard to keep it alive" not blabing about how the game does not deserve the top pay outs

Joe is a TO.. of course hes gonna try and act all cool with the mk community , and make a thread on tym to get our attention ... because we will be bringing in the support and extra cash flow at his tournaments...

you trash the game but you still supported the community.. kept yourself updated on the forums and what not.. and gave ppl props for winning so and so mk9 tournament...
other trolls are irrelevant to me.. cus they aren't trying to come back with a you miss me attitude..

ive put Digimon on blast all the time... dont think im just targeting Joe..
 

Smarrgasm

What's a Smarrgasm?
ITT we get mad at someone who trashes our game but is giving the next one a chance.

Meanwhile we all hate streetfighter, marvel, and other games cause they arent MK.

I mean he didnt like the game. And he decided not to play it. Big fucking whoop. Theres TONS of games that some people will like and others wont. He stated his opinions on the problems of the game which are evident. He chose not to deal with them and play through them. I know that at times they said harsh things about the game. So have I. It should not matter. He came here to say he will be back for Injustice. Can we just move forward? He still has our game at the tournaments he runs cause he knows we support it. What do you want from him? To blindly support and love the game even though he doesnt like it? Screw that. Thats like asking someone to watch soccer all day when they hate it and say its the best sport in the world (i figured most americans would get this one seeing as they hate soccer vs the world view).
 

STORMS

Co-founder
Administrator
In before he bashes injustice a few months from now.

And okay he played umk3 ? That did nothing for mk9. Mk9 is now. Reo played umk3 years after it died. And still bodied most of these "og legends".
Mk9 is what it is from the support of you and Tym staff and the numerous of fans (who probably didnt start playing Mk until now ).
I understand and you might be right. Maybe Joe will bash the game after a little while... who knows (hopefully not).

I have to admit bias on this though as well... I was introduced to Joe by Tim Static at ECT2, which was my very first offline experience.

On a positive note, Cat... I hope you're wrong. :D
 

LI_Joe

Noob
This is my last time acknowledged this thread. First thank you for the warm welcome some of you. Which, I might add, i did not ask for anyone to kiss my ass that I am coming back. I just said hey guys im back whats up lets play injustice. AANNNNNDDD the only reason I came here is because I can answer everyone's questions about injustice. I have the ability to right this very second.. I came here to heeelllpppp the community. The MK community. Since INJ is clearly falling in the MK umbrella.

Now., Yes MK9 is not a good game to me. Which i stated why earlier and most of you guys can understand my reasoning for not liking it. I don't like the game but I support it.. Do i like BB, nope. Do i like SF4, no. I have talked more shit about sf4 then I ever have mk9 thats for sure. You can ask anyone outside of the MK community shell how much shit i talk about sf4... For someone reason you guys act like im killing you children. Its a game everyone. Please relax.. I always support the scene as a whole no matter what game or who wins or how broken, big or small the numbers are. ECT2 was the biggest viewing of MK ever until mk9. I understand you dont want to credit me for supporting umk3 and or playing it. The thing is, facts are facts my G. Most of the well respected OGs do not like MK9. so whats the big deal? who cares man..

I heard few "hes a TO he does it for the money". Dont ASSume you know me or why I do things. If I was in it for the money, why do I not run ads on my stream? Why do I not make money off my stream raffling n selling stuff? Because I do not do it for the money. I do it because I want to give you guys something. The FGC. Not this scene or that scene. THE FGC. I work for my money homeslice. This is not work. This is pride, passion and love.

Like me, love me, hate me, respect me or disrespect me. I've done my all with the community as a whole and no matter what anyone says or how they see it., I know I left my mark here.

I could also go on and on about the mlg thing. That gets into heavy politics which Ill leave sjc to do.. if he hasn't already.

One more thing. I might say innjustice is butt too. Time will tell. But i respect the game and the steps nrs has taken to improve it over mk9. If anyone has any questions about it hit the stream up. I got you!
 
OK I got to page 1 and a half of this thread before I had to stop reading and just post. 16bit and Cat, you guys are missing the point COMPLETLEY. Joe doesn't like your game. I don't either. And yet, as an organization, East Coast Throwdown has been behind MK9 every single step of the way. Even when you guys were in MLG, we advertised ECT by saying "hey if you can't make to to MLG, come here!". I was even at VSM the week prior to ECT and was saying ON STREAM to all the guys going to MLG, "Good luck, we'll try to watch, get that money!" I was TELLING people to go to MLG to get the money. You know why? Because we BOTH knew that the money wouldn't be there for more than a year. And guess what? PROPHECY FUCKING FULFILLED! So you guys should really check your facts before you say Joe doesn't support you guys and just shits on you. You two are a fucking joke.

We've been behind you guys every single step of the way, even after MLG dropped you. We are always here with open arms for you to come to our tournaments. We always support your games, no matter what they are! Are you guys aware that Shock and @summ0ning come with us to EVERY SINGLE hotel we scout out to help us with floor plans? Are you aware that when the MK TOs ask us what they can/can't do at ECT, we just tell them "whatever you guys want to do, it's your area, run whatever, just make sure it's on our schedule". But right, Joe (and subsequently ECT) doesn't care about your community. We hate MK so much that back in 2010, we put UMK3 on stream and I had to literally scold Seb from Frame-Advantage to have patience while 9.95 and Dark_Rob were setting up their mame setup for the first time on a stream. But right, we hate this community. Joe does it for money? Are you kidding? We could give two shits about the money. We run ECT because it's fun and it brings people together. We pay for that shit out of our own pockets for what? FOR YOU TO ENJOY YOURSELVES! All we ever hope for is to break even! Whenever we have ideas of where to put money into, all we care about is "if we spend more, are we going to be able to break even, or how much will we lose?" We never say "man this is really going to cut into profits". We're not in this for the money.

Now here's what I will say about a lot of you. You guys shoot yourselves in the foot every chance you get. It happened when MLG picked you up and this self-righteous crybaby sub-generation of MK9 players came about and claimed that community events were only harming the community, and it's happening now. You can't unite on any sort of front. Yes, people have differing opinions, but it's incredible the amount of bullshit drama that happens here. Any time someone says "I don't like your game" you get up in arms saying that they're destroying your community. Guess what guys? We both hate SF4! Marvel 3 is a joke compared to Marvel 2! You don't see everyone on SRK or EH telling us that we need to get out of the community because we're just poisoning it. You guys have access to a man with a wealth of fighting game knowledge who has a full copy of Injustice and is willing to answer your questions and learn with you. And what do Cat and 16bit do? Start chastising the guy for his opinion on a game and say he's worthless to the community. Stay classy guys.
 

STORMS

Co-founder
Administrator
This is my last time acknowledged this thread. First thank you for the warm welcome some of you. Which, I might add, i did not ask for anyone to kiss my ass that I am coming back. I just said hey guys im back whats up lets play injustice. AANNNNNDDD the only reason I came here is because I can answer everyone's questions about injustice. I have the ability to right this very second.. I came here to heeelllpppp the community. The MK community. Since INJ is clearly falling in the MK umbrella.

Now., Yes MK9 is not a good game to me. Which i stated why earlier and most of you guys can understand my reasoning for not liking it. I don't like the game but I support it.. Do i like BB, nope. Do i like SF4, no. I have talked more shit about sf4 then I ever have mk9 thats for sure. You can ask anyone outside of the MK community shell how much shit i talk about sf4... For someone reason you guys act like im killing you children. Its a game everyone. Please relax.. I always support the scene as a whole no matter what game or who wins or how broken, big or small the numbers are. ECT2 was the biggest viewing of MK ever until mk9. I understand you dont want to credit me for supporting umk3 and or playing it. The thing is, facts are facts my G. Most of the well respected OGs do not like MK9. so whats the big deal? who cares man..

I heard few "hes a TO he does it for the money". Dont ASSume you know me or why I do things. If I was in it for the money, why do I not run ads on my stream? Why do I not make money off my stream raffling n selling stuff? Because I do not do it for the money. I do it because I want to give you guys something. The FGC. Not this scene or that scene. THE FGC. I work for my money homeslice. This is not work. This is pride, passion and love.

Like me, love me, hate me, respect me or disrespect me. I've done my all with the community as a whole and no matter what anyone says or how they see it., I know I left my mark here.

I could also go on and on about the mlg thing. That gets into heavy politics which Ill leave sjc to do.. if he hasn't already.

One more thing. I might say innjustice is butt too. Time will tell. But i respect the game and the steps nrs has taken to improve it over mk9. If anyone has any questions about it hit the stream up. I got you!
Spoken like a true gangsta. I approve of this OG gangsterism.